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    Not happy Dawn just phoned and said a letter has arrived from above turning us down as 3 committee members voted against us . Will post full details later
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    What?! Why?
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    I wanted to become a member; I just haven’t got my breeder to give me her details yet. Jan Bell was going to help me with the second signature. Back then I voiced my concerns that they will refuse us membership if they find out whom we are and that we are joining to support Margaret. That’s what I wrote to Jan Bell:The way I read is that there is no guarantee that you get accepted as a member.
    There are a few posts on the forum indicating that people/breeders come on the forum just to have a look to see our opinions. I am just wondering that people will know who we are and might not accept the membership because they know that we are supporting Margaret.
    Jan went and ask Karlin (I don’t want to post exactly what Karlins reply was as it was a private message, unless Karlin don’t mind me posting it) but Karlin mentioned that they would have to have good reason to refuse you membership. I’ am sorry to say but I had a feeling this would happen, as they know that we want to vote Margaret back in.
    Jan and Karlin: I hope you don’t mind me mentioning this.
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    After the way a CKCS committee member was so unjustly treated after that BBC programme and after reading so many knowledgeable posts on our forum and being in total agreement I thought I would apply for membership of the club for Dawn and I and do the democratic thing and object from within, and vote for committee members at their next AGM .So I duly printed off the forms completed had them and also had them completed by existing members and duly sent them off with my fee on the 18 th Sept. And waited and waited then last week I emailed the club asked whats happening I then received a reply from a lady named Annette informing me the next meting was on the 15 th Nov and new memberships were to be discussed ,so I duly received a letter this morning saying.

    Dear Mr Murtagh
    Your application for membership was considered at the recent committee meeting of the CKCS and I regret to inform you that your membership to the club has not been approved by the committee.

    Applications are presented to the the committee for approval under the rules of the club and if three of the persons entitled to vote decline to accept an application then the same will be refused and any money returned.

    Yours sincerely

    Mrs A Jones
    Honorary Secretary

    Your thoughts please would be wellcome ,I shall ponder and post later
    Brian M

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    Wow! That is harsh. I can't believe that they are so openly one-sided about everything. They are screaming for the need for another club to replace them in the "real world" where people care about the health of dogs in addition to their looks.

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    Brian, this has to come like a slap across the face. I'm sure there is a method to follow in requesting disclosure of stated reasons and that should be the route to start your inquiry. At some point the CKCS Club will have to answer publicly if they turn down many good citizens requesting to join for the betterment of the breed and certainly the KC will be interested in this latest aberration by a Club set up to be a stalwart supporter of the breed. Follow logic for your answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frecklesmom View Post
    Brian, this has to come like a slap across the face. I'm sure there is a method to follow in requesting disclosure of stated reasons and that should be the route to start your inquiry. At some point the CKCS Club will have to answer publicly if they turn down many good citizens requesting to join for the betterment of the breed and certainly the KC will be interested in this latest aberration by a Club set up to be a stalwart supporter of the breed. Follow logic for your answers.

    I don't know how it works in the UK, but here in the states, the breed club doesn't have to tell you anything. No appeal, no reasons given fwiw

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    I thought i might have been given some reasons why I was refused this ending leaves so many unanswered questions could it be

    1) I have posted here and on Dog World showing obvious support for Karlin and Margaret C

    2)They have decided to be totally undemocratic and formed a closed shop against people who would not pat them on the back and tell them what a wonderful job they are doing for our beloved breed

    3) Is it because I was proposed by Margaret C and are they victimizing her through me

    4) They are just not nice people and only like sucking up to each other on their breeder forum it goes from Bet to Rod to Norma to Rod to Bet to Norma and so on and on but they are amongst NICE people unlike us lot.

    Shall i contact the K C and J Harrison of the TV programme and advise what a closed shop they are putting up and again trying to downgrade and sometimeshe ignor the growing SM problem ,with comments like if we stop mentioning it Jo Public he has a short memory and we can therefore when its all gone quiet and that programme has dimmed carry on showing and inbreeding just like the good old days cos really SM doesn't exist does it ,What a load of Cobblers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian M View Post
    Hi

    I thought i might have been given some reasons why I was refused this ending leaves so many unanswered questions could it be

    1) I have posted here and on Dog World showing obvious support for Karlin and Margaret C

    2)They have decided to be totally undemocratic and formed a closed shop against people who would not pat them on the back and tell them what a wonderful job they are doing for our beloved breed

    3) Is it because I was proposed by Margaret C and are they victimizing her through me

    4) They are just not nice people and only like sucking up to each other on their breeder forum it goes from Bet to Rod to Norma to Rod to Bet to Norma and so on and on but they are amongst NICE people unlike us lot.

    Shall i contact the K C and J Harrison of the TV programme and advise what a closed shop they are putting up and again trying to downgrade and sometimeshe ignor the growing SM problem ,with comments like if we stop mentioning it Jo Public he has a short memory and we can therefore when its all gone quiet and that programme has dimmed carry on showing and inbreeding just like the good old days cos really SM doesn't exist does it ,What a load of Cobblers
    Brian
    Sorry to say this but I think the reason will be 1,2,3 and 4.
    I thought there were other people joining from this forum. It would be interesting to see if they also get refused.

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    Remember what Groucho Marx had to say about joining clubs: "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member!"

    Sometimes you can accomplish more by not being in the club. At least they can't try to kick you out of it.

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