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    Oh my god. I cannot believe they sent him home as if he had a *^&%$! neuter!! Please PM me who did this surgery and where the referral came from. I am utterly shocked at this approach as is one of the leading neurologists familiar with this condition who does many of these surgeries annually and always keeps the dogs in intensive care for at least a week afterwards!

    This is such a serious surgery and there should be strict guidelines for keeping the dog calm and quiet -- either confined down to a small area or (the advice of most neurologists is crated for at LEAST 3-4 weeks post-op), only tiny walks. The whole surgery can fail if the dog is out running around. The inital 3 month recovery period is crucial.

    I'd recommend reading this:

    http://cavalierhealth.ca/PDF/Underst...ingomyelia.pdf

    This is from Dr Clare Rusbridge's document on post-op care. I know she often keeps dogs for 10 -14 days post op in hospital:

    What post surgery drug treatment would you advise?
    Dogs are hospitalised until comfortable enough for morphine-like-drugs to be discontinued and then discharged on a combination of non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (e.g. Rimadyl) and gabapentin (Neurontin). This is withdrawn when the dog is comfortable (about 2 weeks in most cases).
    From Rod Russell's Cavalierhealth.org:

    Surgery to allow the cerebrospinal fluid to flow normally may be necessary to reduce the pain and deterioration. However, such surgeries are technically difficult and should be performed only by specialists.

    Also see: http://www.cavalierhealth.org/syring...htm#--_surgery
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    Hi all

    I rang UCD, I told them where the surgery was done, they told me that they had faith in the surgeons ability and said that if he felt that I was not competent to deal with the aftermath then he would not have left the dog in my care. I told them what he was like when he got him back from the the operation and what he has been like now.

    They felt that a dog did better post recovery in the owners hands as they knew them best and they were in an enviroment that was safe to them. They said though if I have any doubts though to call the surgery asap but from all the information disclosed the vet on duty felt that I was coping well with the situation and that Ted's meds were working and that everything was ok but to keep monitoring the situation.

    Fi xxxxx

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    and thanks for those links Karlin xx

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    UCD -- or at least the person answering the call -- is seriously misinformed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Crilly View Post
    I don't have a crate for Ted never had, I was never told to get one either.
    Hi , I'm so sorry I missed this thread . I live accross the road from the Marie Louise Veterinary clinic. You could have come to me on the day - sorry.

    I have a crate that you can borrow for Ted , if you wish. We will drive over to your place with it. I have senior gold vet bedding in it so it will be quite comfy and you can use it for as long as you need. I'm so sorry you are going through all this -it scares the hell out of me!
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    Good job Claire.
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    I'm just catching up with this thread, having been through first hand experience of decompression surgery with my rescue cavalier Charlie, and I'm in shock that the surgeon would release Ted the same day of decompression surgery. There is no board certified veterinary neurosurgeon who would take such a risk - I wasn't even allowed to visit Charlie for 2 days, but had to rely on one scheduled phone call per day for a status report. During that time, Charlie was being monitored in the hospital 24/7 and was on very strong pain medication that could not be administered outside of a hospital setting.

    Fiona, I am not blaming you. But I do question the surgeon's qualifications for performing decompression surgery on any animal and the total lack of proper hospital aftercare and proper home care instructions is unconscionable. Ted's vets should have referred you and Ted to a board certified neurosurgeon at a hospital setting for this surgery.
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    Thanks Cathy, I am going to be seeking a second opinion on this as my case does seem to be very very different than other peoples.

    Fi xx

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    I am praying that Ted will be ok and that his pain is controlled. Has he been taken to the veterinary college (UCD?) yet? Is there a board certified neurosurgeon there?
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    Hi

    No has not not been taken yet, I will be calling them first thing tomorrow morning, Karlin seems to think that I was given incorrect information on Friday evening when I called so I think I will have to wait until normal working hours are back in operation to get some real answers.

    Ted is quiet as in not yelping, not barking, he is just moving from bed to bed every 1hr and a half, he does not seem to be to be in pain? I was told that if I felt that it was needed I could give him a 1/4 of parecetmol, I did give 1/4 on Friday morning @2am, Friday afternoon 3pm, Saturday morning 2.30 am and then Sat afternoon 3pm again. If I am honest he did not look like he needed on the last occasion so I have not given any since.

    Do you think I should be giving it to him regardless? I know it's early days but he really does look better every hour considering what has been done thank God.

    Fi xxx

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