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    just a few questions for those sadly in the know....do you still try to keep your little ones walking as normal or have you cut their walks to short walks only? ive shortened our walks recently but should i encourage her to keep her fitness levels up? should i stop each time she needs to have a scratch, im worried she'll hurt herself walking & scratching at the same time? her puppia harness seems to make her scratch more,are there any you can reccommend? and last question do you explain to other dog walkers about SM? when rubes goes to say hello to other dogs she scratches so much & i see the other person trying to move their dog away like they think she's got fleas& last week even tho' i said to another walker its SM i saw her checking for fleas as she stroked rubes tummy!
    sorry if this isnt in the right section. any advice most welcome x

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    Hi. We were just going to start giving Abbey short walks and then its been raining here. You have a good point on the scratching and walking. I think if its hard for them to walk then to stop for a little bit would be the thing to do. In regards to people saying and looking which I'm sure I will get in the future--Abbey's head is tilted, tongue hangs out alot etc. I don't really give a hoot to tell you the truth. I will tell them she has a neurological disease called syringomyelia and if they seem interested etc. to go from there. The older I get the less I care what people think--lol. Sad but true. Are you going to take your baby to a neurologist or ????? In regards to the harness my 3 cav's now have the upcountry ones. Saw a bunch of people give positive posts about them so ordered three of them--they work for us. I've never tried the puppia ones but I have read where some have had to change to another harness etc. Thinking of you.
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    You really, really, REALLY need to find someone (wither a vet or neurologist, ideally both in tandem) who will work with you to try some pain relief medication -- excessive scratching is generally considered by neurologists to be a sign of extreme discomfort and often pain, with this condition.

    I would not be taking her on walks to the point where she is scratching constantly.

    She needs medication if the vet has examined all other possibilities. You can talk to a neurologist and get a clinical exam without needing to do an MRI -- and a neurologist will likely work with you to try some medications to relieve this fairly severe level of distress (if she is constantly scratching and scratching all the time on walks) regardless of whether you do an MRI. Please don't leave her in this situation out of concern about cost for an MRI. You can address her condition, whatever it may be, without having to get an MRI if the clinical signs are (as they seem to be) very obvious. Most neurologists are not going to insist you get an MRI before helping to make the dog more comfortable. There aren't many things that could cause scratching like this and most neuros would almost certainly try her on a treatment regime immediately.

    Your vet is the person to do a referral for you to the nearest neurologist. If your vet is reluctant then I'd go to another vet.

    All dogs are different and harnesses differ in whether they bother the dog. Some are actually better on collars but usually harnesses suit SM dogs better. But again if your dog is this touch sensitive she really needs medication as a matter of urgency; I doubt a different harness is going to make much difference.
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    The older I get the less I care what people think
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    Karlin said it better than I did. Scratching does mean pain--look at my video--she's so distressed as I call it. I can't hardly watch it now--breaks my heart that she was in that much pain. Again, I'm with Karlin--I'd get the referral to go see a neurologist and get a consultation and go from there. Vets are clueless.

    Please keep us posted. We all care.
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    I agree, I'd see a neurologist asap! I could not sympathize more with your comment about the scratching. I don't mind so much for myself, but Ilsa wants so badly to play with the other dogs and their owners often pull them away from her. Even with the meds she scratches a bit when she gets excited, i.e. when she sees another dog she'll scratch for a few seconds.

    I have even been lectured by rude strangers that my dog has fleas and I am an unfit owner. I find it especially offensive as I am obsessive about such things and inspect her every day. Although I understand, if another dog scratches I pull Ilsa away as well.

    Luckily for us she always scratches on her right shoulder which is where her harness buckle is so I say that it irritates her or I say she has dry skin due to allergies (that one doesn't work well in winter but then I blame her harness buckle or sweater tag). Unfortunately most people never heard of SM and either don't believe you or don't stick around long enough to hear the whole story. I know it's a lie, but it gets people to relax and let the dogs play.

    Hope that helps and your baby feels better soon!

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    Just thought I'd add that if I know another dog owner (or person) well and see them often I explain the disease in detail and write down the name for them so they can look it up if they choose. I have often been known to tell closer people that I promise she's clean and they can check her themselves if it makes them feel better.

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    Thank you all so much. i have to ring the vet tomorrow with an update on whether the diuretic tablets have helped& to discuss nearest mri scanner& how soon we can see a neurologist. its been a long week to wait for an update with him. the water tablets made no difference to her scratching, he told me they would help with her pain also,i had my doubts but did as advised by him, i stopped those tablets yesterday b.cos they were making no diff& also poor wee mite was wetting herself even shortly after a walk, she's such a clean girl i thought this was too distressing for her.truly not b.cos of wetting me or the furniture right now thats the least of our worries!
    i rung the insurance place this a.m & they said they would indeed cover the cost of mri but otherwise it would be going on my credit card anyway.
    it is at the back of my mind to change vets if he hasnt done some homework in the last week on this condition.
    Ruby is without doubt in pain, today she's yelped twice when we were having a cuddle, its heartbreaking to hurt her even with a cuddle.I nearly got into an arguement with the vet last week about her needing pain relief, i was pushing for gaberpentin as suggested on here Karlin but he was having none of it & thats why i left the treatment sheet with the site written on it with him so as i say i hope he's done some homework!
    Youre right its time i stopped giving a hoot about others reactions! Yesterday i read thro old posts on here back to page 5 anyway for tips but couldnt find any about length of walks, sometimes its more scratching when we're 1st out, always when she sees another dog, sometimes less if we're walking quickly im trying to find a pattern so i can help her but yesterday we stopped to scratch on my every third step(!!!) then we got to 23 steps. ive just got her on a very loose collar at the moment.
    thank you for *listening* to all this,it helps so much to know others care & understand
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    im also obsessed about flea treatments on her, she gets done every 4 weeks&checked all the time! isnt it sad that people jump to conclusions & dont listen when you try to explain, like you Jen its little 'un i feel sorry for cos she just wants to say hello to all the other dogs

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    Please switch to a harness ASAP!!!!!! It will be so much better for her. It took Ilsa a bit to get used to them but now she is fine with it. If she doesn't like the puppia you can buy a nice soft leather one as I did. As to the length of walk - When Ilsa is tired she lets me know. I always carry her bag with me and carry her when she's done. If your dog is like that I'd let her walk all she wants - she may surprise you

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