1st September 2009, 06:38 PM
We have a 4 year old Tri and lately, ESPECIALLY at night, he is really itchy on his belly and back hind legs. Poor little guy We took him to the vet a couple weeks ago and he put him on a steroid for 5 days with an antihistimine. We have changed his food since then, his treats. Any ideas as to what can help?
1st September 2009, 07:49 PM
I think you need to look at a couple of things -- potentially allergies, and potentially something in the bedding like fleas, or flea allergy, but I think you also must look into the possibility of syringomyelia, and make sure your vet is both familiar with this problem and knows the high incidence in cavaliers. Needing to scratch more at night is one of the common signs amongst those of us with dogs with this unfortunate condition. You can read more and download several documents to bring to your vet here:
If your vet cannot find any other cause (and also if some other symptoms look famiilar, in particular) have your vet refer you to a neurologist, ideally one familiar with SM. There's a list on my SM site above and also on www.cavalierhealth.org.
Good luck with finding the cause of this problem.
Ps Steroids will help suppress signs of SM and make the dog appear better, but once off steroids the signs generally return fairly quickly. A difficulty in diagnosing SM is that it can have similar symptoms to many other conditions though soe signs, such as 'air scratching' are unique to SM. However, not all dogs with SM air scratch or scratch at all, though it is one of the most common symptoms.
In memory: Lucy
Cavalier SM Infosite:www.smcavaliers.com
1st September 2009, 08:35 PM
He is actually making contact with his belly, around the outside back legs too. he mostly licks it, the vet said it actually looked like he had hives? you can actually see it getting more reddish (his little belly) and its warm. i bought a natural aloe spray for dogs to help soothe him a bit and it seems to do the trick, that or a cool clothe on his belly. the vet said something about rag weed? BUT we haven't been up near that area in about a month, so i would think it would go away. he also was checked for flea allergies, and there were none. weird question though, if you have heard of this. the same weekend we were up north, it rained a lot and there were little frogs all over the place, NOW everyone thinks im crazy, BUT do you think that could of caused something with them all over the yard, peeing in the grass and weeds where he goes, what do you think? it started right after we got back from up there.
1st September 2009, 09:20 PM
2nd September 2009, 12:20 AM
Originally Posted by cwarner
This cream is brilliant, have seen a number of dogs with very red and inflammed skin, 1 week on this and the difference is remarkable.
PS Use the starter pack.
2nd September 2009, 08:37 AM
Aww poor guy. Hives really sound like allergies to me. My 1.5 year old tri has allergies to fleas AND grass... we suspect there is a food allergy compounding the rest, too but haven't done the food trials yet.
She scratched like mad and we were terrified about SM. We had her MRI'd and thank goodness she was clear, THEN we knew that her scratching was due to allergies. Other clues for allergies in her case: red red eyes, itchy muzzle and bright pink belly.
I am no expert on this but you may want to check for flea dander, little dark specks of dirt. Our animal derm said that fleas tend to really get dug in around the back quarters... If he's scratching at night, maybe wash his bedding - flea eggs can live on their beds... Also, Mags has gotten SO much relief from Epi-Soothe shampoo but it's not cheap - at $17 a bottle it costs more than my shampoo!
We had good luck reducing Mags' scratching with Atopica but it did take forever - we ran trials of every single antihistamine before that, and they *all* failed. Next it's the trials and no more snacks and chew bones for weeks.
good luck to you and your itchy hivey boy, I hope it clears up soon for him.
2nd September 2009, 11:22 AM
The strange thing is it is only and night and it started maybe a month ago. We have had him for 2 years now and he's never had this problem. I read the info on SM and pray that it isn't that.
We have this soothing spray stuff that when applied seems to help. His bedding is our bedding so it gets washed on a regular basis so I don't think it's that.
Well I guess it's time for a trip to the vet.
2nd September 2009, 01:15 PM
Has anyone ever had issues with any kind of worm? He was after his paw (heel) late last night and i noticed a little sore there? I think he also may have thrown up last night, the blanket he uses was stained, it's was yellowish, but did not smell of urine, so im assuming it was vomit. I read up on ring worm? I think I will call my vet today, have a sample done of his stuff and see if that is the case. We really are hoping it's not SM, he just doesn't seem to fit the 'model' of that. BUT, we will talk to our vet about this as well. We are very worried about this with our little guy. Im hoping its as simple as worms or allergies. Also anohter thought we had was his glands? He seriously only licks the area around his belly, private area? BUT more toward the tail and back hind legs. He's not sensitive.
2nd September 2009, 04:24 PM
Do you have foxes around? It's possible it could be sarcoptic mange.
2nd September 2009, 04:33 PM
The licking may not really have anything to do with the itching -- some of mine seem to be lickers and others do not. Mange def. could be a possible issue. Ringworm isn't actually a worm, despite its name -- it is a fungal infection and also is easily checked for. Has your vet done any kind of skin scrape? That would be one of the first things to do on his hindquarters. Anal glands won't really cause itching. If they are infected or impacted they could cause a dog to bite at its hindquarters.
Any of these things require further checking by your vet so I'd get him back in for some further investigations.
In memory: Lucy
Cavalier SM Infosite:www.smcavaliers.com