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    Hi all,
    I am new to this website. I joined bc not only do I love my dog but I found out on Monday that he has a grade 2 heart murmur. I am sure being that there are many cavalier owners on here, I am not the first person to deal with this. My dog is only 4 years old! I cannot believe he has a heart murmur already. I am devistated that my baby will have a shorter life span due to this condition. I am asking for help please. Does anyone have any suggestions on dealing with this? I was wondering what would a good diet or medication to put him on for this. Can anyone tell me their story in dealing with this condition. Thank you so much. Anything helps...I am heartbroken

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    Hi, I'm sorry to hear that your dog has a heart murmer Was it detected by a cardiologist or vet? If it was a vet, you should have it confirmed by a cardiologist. The cardiologist will probably be able to tell you what meds, if any, your dog should be on. I would also let your breeder know; he/she will want to know...I don't have any experience with murmers, but I know that many people on here have dogs that have them and are doing just fine Keep us posted on how he is doing, and post some pictures!
    Carrie - Mom to my boys, Miles (a Ruby born 4/15/07) and Truman (a B&T born 11/28/07) and my girls, cats Hailey and Kayla (born @ 4/15/04 - they were found as strays )

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    Oh I understand completely how you feel- I was told when Ruby was 1 that she had a murmor- grade 1 and I worried myself sick reading up on MVD all over the internet.
    I started giving her Vitamin E and CoEnzyme Q10 supplements and put her on a diet strait away- keeping her fit is my number 1 priority, however she is now 3 and her murmor is still a grade 1 (sometimes they cant even hear it!) and since then I have found out she has SM. When I look back at how devastated I was when the vet told me about the murmor I realised that I over reacted slightly as a murmor doesnt always end up as MVD and many dogs live with the murmor their whole lives and it never turns in to anything more.
    For your little one to be 4 yrs and have a grade 2 is actually quite good , beleive it or not!
    My new boy of 9 months has a grade 3 murmor already and I am more worried about that and will be getting him seen by a specialist soon.

    I really wouldnt worry too much (easier said than done, I know!!) and he wont be put on any medication at this stage. keep him as fit as possible and his weight is better off on the lean side than over!! Im sure he will be fine and just dont panic!

    karen, ruby and charlie x

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    Breeders strive for over 5 and heart clear. I've have one cavalier get a grade I murmur at age 3, she was cleared at age four, now she has a 1 murmur at over age 5. I just had 9 cardio checks done-- two had murmurs (the one five year old and one over 9 years old).
    IMO,a grade II at age 4 is worth seeing a cardiologist, many places have low cost cardio clinics.
    I have a friend that had a wonderful cavalier get a murmur at 4-- she neutered him asap and he passed away at age 14 of a kidney aliment.
    I have another breeder friend that had a dog get a murmur after 5 1/2 and that dog passed away of MVD at 6 1/2.
    When a dog gets a murmur is less important than how fast it progresses.

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    Competely agree with Sandy,
    Any dog can change very quickly from being clear to not or being a low grade to a high grade.
    Its important to keep a eye on it (or an ear ) and act accordingly. My vet wasnt very quick to react and all they kept saying was "oh its very common for this breed and not to worry"- well I think thats my desision to make!! Needless to say they arent my vet anymore!
    Let the vet know what steps YOU want to take and dont let them tell you otherwise

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    I think most people would say that a Grade 2 murmur is too soon to start medication - if you start it too soon, you run out of options if it gets worse later on. And heart medication is not a preventive - it's used to treat symptoms such as breathlessness if and when they appear. But the ordinary stethescopes used by vets aren't specialised enough to diagnose murmurs with real accuracy, so do get the diagnosis confirmed by a cardiologist. I don't know where you live, but in the UK the Cavalier Clubs run regular heart clinics (often in connection with their shows), either free or very reasonably priced - I take my two to the spring championship show each year to get their hearts checked by a cardiologist. The vital thing at this stage, as others have already said, is to get your dog's weight down and keep him as fit as possible. Lots of exercise - but at the same time be very cautious in very hot weather, which puts extra strain on the heart. Aled, my 2-year-old rescue, also has a Grade 2 murmur but shows no ill-effects; he's neutered, so I have to work hard (and walk a lot!) to keep his weight down, but he seems very fit. That's really all you can do at the moment - besides enjoying life with your Cavalier, of course!

    Kate, Oliver (with Grade 2 murmur at 8 years old) and Aled

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    Hi, sorry to hear that Tucker has a heart murmer but I would try not to panic too much at the moment. My Chihuahua X Peke dog Impie was diagnosed with a grade 5 heart murmer two years ago when he was 11 years old which was quite a surprise as he had not been diagnosed with any problem before. He will be 13 at the end of this month and he is not on any medication and still goes on a mile walk every day. When he gets a check up the Vet says not to worry unless he is showing any symptoms like coughing and that as long as his lungs are clear just to carry on as normal.
    Best wishes to you and Tucker.
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    Oz was diagnosed with a grade 1 murmur and second degree heart block at age 4 months. He's two now and is doing great. Still a grade 1. I give him Fish oil with Omega 3 and 30 mg CoQ 10 every day. Once a week I give him two sprinkles of finely ground rosemary on top of his food. I hope to keep his at a grade 1 forever!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love my Cavaliers View Post
    Oz was diagnosed with a grade 1 murmur and second degree heart block at age 4 months. He's two now and is doing great. Still a grade 1. I give him Fish oil with Omega 3 and 30 mg CoQ 10 every day. Once a week I give him two sprinkles of finely ground rosemary on top of his food. I hope to keep his at a grade 1 forever!!

    Hi Bev

    Just interested to know what it is that the Rosmary does? Im interested in doing anything I can at the momment for my 10 month old (grade 3)
    He has 50 mg Coenzyme every other day and vitamin E and cod liver oil every day?

    Karen x

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls287301 View Post
    I joined bc not only do I love my dog but I found out on Monday that he has a grade 2 heart murmur. ... My dog is only 4 years old! I cannot believe he has a heart murmur already. I am devistated that my baby will have a shorter life span due to this condition. I am asking for help please. Does anyone have any suggestions on dealing with this? ...
    I suggest that you take a look at http://cavalierhealth.org/mitral_valve_disease.htm There is nothing unusual about a Cavalier developing a mitral valve murmur at 4 years of age. Statistically, about 40% of Cavaliers are expected to develop murmurs by that age.

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