Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 18 of 18

Thread: Kennel Club Slated in Dog World

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Birmingham, UK
    Posts
    811
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Margaret C View Post
    How very strange! This is the first time I have heard it said that the KC is a registered charity, and it certainly is not a reason they have used publicly to explain why they continue to register puppies from all comers.

    I have checked their own website and they describe themselves as a "voluntary register for all dogs"
    I cannot find any mention of a registered charity except for the KC Arts Foundation.

    Can you remember what department this lady worked in?
    I have just looked at old notebooks to see if I have a date, a name of a department or a name for the lady I spoke to who told me what has turned out to be absolute nonsense.

    All I can remember is that I was moved to tears when I saw the evidence in the Breed Supplement that this lady had bred my Holly's mother the very next season after she had produced 2 pups in the previous litter with serious autoimmune diseases - my poor Holly additionally having a deformed front paw. Rumour has it that the stud was a puppy from an earlier litter which had been returned to her as he was blind.

    I had been told a couple of months before the Supplement came out that the litter had been bred despite the guidelines of the Cavalier clubs and possibly the Kennel Club too. I had also sent the breeder copies of Holly's x-rays and diagnostic reports from the specialists at The Willows and additionally a letter passing on the advice that any future breeding should be undertaken with caution.

    After I told people about Holly's problems and those of the other pup in the litter several people said I should make a formal complaint to the KC about this lady's activities, one telling me in no uncertain terms that she thought I would be letting everyone else down if I did not take the action that only I would be equipped to take.

    It was with all this in mind that I rang the KC to ask what I should do to stop this lady's activities - I imagined someone would send me a form to be submitted to the Disciplinary Committee or the ABS if she was a member of that scheme, as I knew she had been in the recent past. Instead I was passed from extension to extension and fobbed of with what I am now told is absolute nonsense.

    The first person I spoke with checked out the details, but told me the lady was no longer an ABS breeder. I asked how to make a more general complaint then and was passed to and fro between several other departments. Eventually, still on the verge of tears, I was put through to the lady who told me there was nothing the KC could do to stop her registering any further litters as they would loose their charitable status if they did so. i had no reason to doubt what was said and asked what else I could do about this lady. It was then suggested that I get in touch with her local Council, as she was probably licensed with them as a breeder.

    I then rang the Council but was told she had withdrawn her registration as a breeder and there was nothing they could do either. I tried the RSPCA too, but they referred me back to the local council.

    I talked to someone on another list about my anger and frustration. She looked in her West of England Club Yearbook to see whether the breeder was a member and had breached their code of ethics, but she was not.

    So there you have almost the whole story. There is nothing else relevant that I can remember. My writing desk is a mass of paper piled on paper, piled on yet more paper, so maybe in time I will find a piece of paper with either a date or a relevant name scrawled across it which will make sense, but please don't hold your breath.
    Warmest wishes
    Flo & the ByFloSin Cavaliers
    Rebel, Winston Alexander,Little Joe & Holly Poppet
    Birmingham, UK

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Hatfield, Herts, UK
    Posts
    2,741
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    20

    Default

    How absolutely frustrating this must have been for you, especially when you were trying so hard to do what was right for the dogs she may breed in the future.

    Your desk sounds like mine. One of these days I will get organised.
    Margaret C

    Cavaliers......Faith, The Ginger Tank and Woody.
    Japanese Chins.... Dandy, Benny, Bridgette and Hana.
    Remembered with love......... Tommy Tuppence and Fonzi

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,592
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Kennel Club Slated in Dog World.

    Flo,

    I for sure know how you are feeling.

    When our Becky, a B/T was diagnosed with Epilepsy ,I got in touch with Dr M Willis ,Geneticist, he told me to contact her Breeder ,No Joy there, that was when I decided to go it alone about the Health Problems in our Cavalier Breed,this was around 20 years ago.

    This is why I am so grateful to Jemima Harrison and her Pedigree Dogs Exposed TV Program, at long last we Cavalier Owners are getting listened to, and Prospective Cavalier Buyers are now aware of the Health Problems in our Breed and know what questions to ask Cavalier Breeders.

    You must be feeling like Banging your Head !!

    I don't know what you can do now ,is the Breeder a Member of the CKCS CLUB ,you might get help from them.
    Bet (Hargreaves)

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sale, Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    281
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EddyAnne View Post
    Whilst the KC was helping DEFRA to draft Codes of Practice for Dogs in generally looking after them I think that DEFRA might be including at least a mention about health testing before breeding, but then there might be another Codes of Practice on the cards for later say in a year specifically on health testing before breeding this as such Codes might in time be quite large to include all the hereditary health issues concerning dogs. Yes the KC is one of several Consultants that advise and assist DEFRA where DEFRA has been drafting Codes of Practice
    An update on what I previously mentioned.

    Interesting article including the following from this link address.
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/172962.php

    x. For pedigree puppies, ensure that any recognised registration papers and the parents' hereditary disease screening certificates, where appropriate, are in order and available at the time you buy the puppy.

    3. Defra is soon to publish the Code of Practice for the Welfare of Dogs under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. The Code will provide further advice and guidance to dog owners on their duty of care to their animals. More information is available from Defra.

    http://www.defra.gov.uk/
    .

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,592
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Kennwl Club Slated in Dog World.

    Thanks EddyAnne for the information about the The Dog Breeding Stakeholder Group where it can be read about their 10 practical Guidelines to help Prospective Owners before buying their Puppy.

    What is so interesting is the Groups mention that Every Dog should be Born with the Best Possible Chance of Living a Healthy ,Happy Life /

    That all who who Breed Dogs should Prioritise Health ,Welfare and Temperament over Appearance when choosing which Animals to Breed.

    All the Organisations brought to-gether in this Group, was a result of Jemima Harrison's Pedigree Dogs Exposed TV Program

    One of the Guidelines given by this Group ,which includes, British Veterinary Association,the Blue Cross , CAWC, DEFRA, Dogs Trust the Kennel Club ,PDSA RSPCA and the Universities Federation for Animal Welfare .

    Also for Pedigree Puppies ,ensure that the Parent's Hereditary Screening Certificates , where appropriate ,are in order AND Available at the Time when you buy The Puppy.

    Who ever would have thought that because of Jemima Harrison in her PDE TV FILM ,making the Strong and Dramatic Approach about the Two Serious Diseases Afflicting Cavaliers ,SM and MVD ,many Cavaliers could still be Languishing in the Pain of SM and suffering from the Early Deaths due to MVD.

    I know that a good number still are ,but at Least Prospective Cavalier Owners are now aware of those Health Problems in our Breed and the Secret about them not being with-held as has been the case for many years. ....and now know what questions to be asking Cavalier Breeders.





    DEFRA is soon to Publish the Code Of Practice for the Welfare of Dogs, under the Animal Welfare ACt 2006.
    Bet (Hargreaves)

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Chicago burbs
    Posts
    2,010
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    BBC America is a channel that I don't get. That didn't stop me from watching it on You tube.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    24,025
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default

    Just moving this as the thread is about broader health issues, not SM/MVD.
    Karlin
    Cavaliers: Jaspar Leo Lily Tansy Libby Mindy
    In memory: Lucy
    Cavalier SM Infosite:www.smcavaliers.com

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sale, Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    281
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Karlin View Post
    Just moving this as the thread is about broader health issues, not SM/MVD.
    Karlin are you saying that this if in the soon to be published Codes of Practice would NOT apply to MVD and CM/SM with Cavaliers?

    "For pedigree puppies, ensure that any recognised registration papers and the parents' hereditary disease screening certificates, where appropriate, are in order and available at the time you buy the puppy."
    .

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •