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    Hi,
    As you know from our "bad news" thread from friday i took Rubes for chest x-rays today.She's home but a bit spaced out.The results are that her heart is enlarged left & right,he showed me the xrays & where there should be gaps there isnt & you could clearly see her heart lying ontop of her chest wall,Its round instead of elongated.If id brought her in with a cough he'd have diagnosed "being in heart failure" but she hasnt a cough so isnt.He's taken a blood test,then he will check the meds he's going to start her on will be ok with gaberpentin & then will ring me.He's happy to refer to a cardiologist at any time.
    Ive not to wrap her in cotton wool& walk her as normal.

    thoughts or advice please?
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    I'm so very sorry to hear this

    I would strongly recommend seeing the cardiologist, they are brilliant with managing heart conditions - {obviously if it was for ourselves, you would rather a cardiologist manage it than your GP...}


    It is good that Ruby's heart is coping - Teddy has a grade 5/6 murmur and likewise is not in CHF; also Fufu - she has been at a 5 for several years now and again is not in CHF, it is dependant on how the heart is coping.

    If they are starting to fill with fluid, then that means the heart is not copiing so well - if it's the left {Mitral} valve then fluid builds up on the lings and they cough; if it's the right, then it builds up in the belly {ascites}. the belly looks tighter and if you tap it, you can see a fluid wave across it.


    Teddy is on a very high dose of Gabapentin and has also been on Benazecare [Fortekor is the palatable version of the same drug].


    A cardiologist would do an ultrasound and an ECG - they would also want to see the x-rays. This gives them a good picture of what is going on.


    The vet is right, don't wrap her in cotton wool, she doesn't know anything is wrong - but also try to avoid stressful situations for her; and do not take her out when it is hot - really just common sense.

    It is very important that she is not allowed to become overweight as that puts added strain on the heart - a lesson for all of us

    Try to include some free running every day if you can, really let her do as much as she likes - keeping fit really helps.


    If you search heart on the forum you will find lots of other posts...

    I know you must be panicking at the moment, but remember they can go on for a long time with medication - Fufu started a grade 1 after having a Pyometra aged 8 {the infection can affect the heart}; she is now 12. The grade is not as important as how the heart is coping - some dogs have a grade 6 for a while before they even start to show symptoms!!

    Take care of yourself too
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    Sorry to hear the news, I can only agree that a specialist is next best step. Hope your ok.

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    Hi there and sorry to hear you and Ruby are still going through a lot of problems. Nicki has already offered some superb advice, which I couldn't really add to, other than to say that our Cavs are valiant little souls, who don't know they have problems and just keep going if you let them.

    I've been through heart problems with three now and, once you've got any necessary medications sorted, it's amazing how well they can do. I've had one on pills for 3 years (from the age of 7), one who only needed them for the last 3 months and, currently, her daughter, who is now 9 and still doing well.

    Up to now I've always just trusted my own general vet, but I think the advice to see a specialist is probably better, as they must be more up to date with changes in treatment, especially as Ruby has SM as well.

    I'm sure everyone on CT will be thinking of you and wishing you all lots of luck.
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    Ah Tupup, I've not posted on here for ages, but I've just come on for a browse and seen your thread.
    I'm so sorry to hear about your worries with your darling girl. I wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you.
    It sounds as though you have been given some good advice from those on here with experience of Cavalier health problems.
    Just wanted to let you know that I'm sending my love

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    Sending love to you and your girls

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    So sorry about your news. I definitely would see a cardiologist. My vet said that there was no need to see a cardiologist for my Ebony but I wanted a referral. It made a lot of difference for my peace of mind. Like Nicki said we wouldn’t trust our GP to manage a heart condition we would want to see a specialist. Sending lots of
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    Molly, Dotty and Dougall send lots of love and cuddles to you all. Let me know if there is anything
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    Nicki and everyone else has given you lots of good advice.

    The only thing I can add is that keeping her weight low will do her a world of good. Our cardiologist kept telling us that Geordie needed to lose a little more weight, and finally last visit he told us Geordie is at the right weight for him, which is 7.9 kg and the last report said, "Geordie has an ideal body scoreof 3/5 which is characterized by being able to see his waist from above and from the side and ribs palpable without having to push to feel them." I had always thought Geordie was thin enough previously, and was a little concerned when I could feel his hip bones - but evidently this is very good for a dog with heart issues. So if Ruby is not lean, help her get there slowly but surely.

    Also, based on the latest research, you might want to monitor her respiratory rate daily when she's resting (I check Geordie every evening). If her respiratory rate is above 40 respirations per minute, or increases rapidly and significantly from normal, she should be taken to the cardiologist as soon as possible for an evaluation.

    Hugs to you and Ruby.
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    That's really helpful Cathy.

    If you're as obsessive as me, you can also buy a stethocope - I bought mine on E-bay - and check the heart rate!! Ask the cardiologist what to listen for...


    I think the most important thing though is to try to relax so that the dog does not pick up on your stress, and to enjoy every day.
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