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    Thank you once again for your supportive replies, I havent seemed to be able to stop crying and felt very low. My sister took me to a local fun day on Saturday and when I came home my partner said that Charlie was like a new dog!
    I have to say he has got a spring back to his step - albeit he still cant walk very far without wheezing, and although his nose is still dry, his eyes are much brighter and he has gone back to allowing us to throw his bone for him to fetch He has also developed a new shine to his coat (it went very dull) and tells us when its "toothbrush time" (he has a dentistix at 10pm and you can set your clock by him!) and in all honesty, if I hadnt seen the scan results, I would just put the wheeziness and occasional cough to him getting older. I appreciate we dont know how long we have got him still, but we give in a little bit more - he used to like to jump and sit with us on the sofa, now we just lift him and we've taken to walking him without a lead and let him go at his pace (although we dont usually get much further than across the road before he is struggling).

    My partner and I took him to his favourite field on Sunday morning, before the sun was too high on the pretence we could carry him if it got too much. He used to run that field ragged and we could walk round it 3 times with Charlie still sniffing out all the foxholes, chasing the birds, this time he got half way round and just stopped. I asked if he wanted to go home and he just sat down I opened the front door yesterday and it took me 10 minutes to coax him into the front garden, so Im guessing even short walks are on the cards now.

    Nicki, thank you for taking the time to write with your tips, we had already instigated some of these as a trial to make him feel better.
    He didnt like the fan, even when we placed it on the other side of the room, he moves away, he has taken to sleeping under the dining table which is in a room with laminate floor. It would appear it is in the shade, so we just let him sleep where he feels comfortable, we aren't making too big a thing of that. I did attempt to bring him upstairs, he had an explore and went back down, so again, unless he physically show signs of wanting to come up as opposed to just laying at the bottom, we will be guided by what he wants.

    Walks are practically out of the question now, our back door is permanently open in the summer and he can come and go as he pleases, but he chooses not to, the same as the front - there was a time that we had to chase him down the street, but he just looks out and then trots back in the house now, even with my partner, my son and myself calling him out.

    He has always had dry food and leans towards Bakers. We reduced his diet gradually on advice from the vet to get his weight down enough for the castration and was told there would possibly be some weight gain again afterwards. He was on the light version for a while but seemed to be permanently scavenging so the vet told us to put him back on the normal version, just slightly less.
    We changed him to the senior meals a couple of months ago and he seems content on that, so I dont think Ill change it again now, but he has 130gms a day, so I could reduce it a little.
    He always used to enjoy a carrot at lunchtime - again his body clock would have him sitting at the fridge waiting for his carrot, run out into the garden (or hide in a corner if it was raining ) and not come back until hed eaten it. Unfortunately we found a stash of carrots in the garden a couple of weeks back, he has been taking them out as per routine, hiding them and coming back in. We even broke one up to offer him pieces at a time, but he just dropped them on the floor. I will try him on rice cakes, I never thought of that, although wont they make him a bit dry? He is drinking loads since he has been on the diuretics.

    After the initial consultation from the coughing and wheezing, Charlie was allocated a cardiology vet and we have had him ever since. He was the one that discussed the scan, gave us the results and then the follow up a week later. He has patience, and even through my bawling managed to explain MVD and how it is affecting Charlie so I am happy with him at the moment. We have enough tablets for another 4 weeks when we are due to back and see him, unless obviously anything happens in the meanwhile..

    I am glad I wasnt imagining the "trill" though. I had never heard of it, or seen it before, although now it is so easily visible if he is lying down. I dont know if that means it is getting worse, or just that now I know what Im looking for, but my partner and my dad could see it when I told them about it yesterday.
    Charlie was laying on the sofa with us yesterday morning and it was easy to feel the non-rhythmic beat - almost like a beat but then an echo, again Ive not noticed this before but it would describe what I can see.

    I will update here as necessary, but for the time being at least, it looks like Ive been blessed with a bit more time with my loving boy

    Btw, I have posted some pics on my profile if you havent already seen them. You will see how big Charlie was when we first got him - its hard to imagine he was ever *that* big!

    Sending hugs to all the Charlies (and Charlie-esses of course!)
    Jan

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    I have had a look at the pictures, Charlie is a real handsome boy. Thank you for sharing and thanks for the update.
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    Thumbs up keeping in touch

    With the extreme hot weather back again, it's difficult to tell if Charlie is starting to struggle with his breathing again or if it is just the heat. The problem is he will insist on going out into the garden to sunbathe!

    I think Ive said in my previous posts that he is allowed a few leniencies now - we leave the back door open and let him come and go as he pleases. He's gone back to being very lethargic and not doing much except sleep. He still has a good appetite atm - we've reduced his senior food down a little more to 100gms from 130gms and I am sure he's lost a little weight already (to look at, Ive not weighed him yet), but we tried him again on fresh carrot, which he used to love, and he just turned his nose up. A treat really is a treat now, where he used to gulp back a biscuit, he takes his time over it now - 3 small dog biscuits can take him up to half an hour to munch!

    He hasn't been sleeping at the bottom of the stairs like he took to doing for a while, maybe his curiousity has been resolved when I let him up there the other day! It takes about 10 minutes to make him understand that he can go for a walk now - there was a time when you could go near his lead or the front door and he would go barmy but he really isnt coping with much more than a 5 minute walk around the housing estate now. I dont even bother with the stress of the lead as its only local and no busy roads, and he just plods behind me

    The good thing is he is breathing deeply and although lazy, he seems rested, unlike the struggling for breath pre meds, so thats cool, the only time he seems to struggle is after exercise, so I really think the park walks are out now.

    Ill update again if there is any change

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    Yayyyy!! Charlie has a wet nose!!!

    For the 1st day in weeks, Charlie gave me a sloppy kiss today instead of rubbing my face with sandpaper

    Just thought Id share that with you

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    hi everyone
    i just wanted to write on here to share my story
    i dont want to sound morbid but its to give everyone an idea of what happens

    my little ainsley past away a week ago he was 7
    he has had a heart murmur for a few years but was diagnosed with mvd at easter this year
    it seemed to progress very very quickly for ainsley
    he was on vetmedin fruzemide and fortekor and things seemed ok for a while even with the coughing which he had quite often
    he had an xray and ultrasound which showed an enlarged heart
    then just under 2 weeks ago his stomach seemed to expand quite a lot and he was very week this was on the friday
    i took him to the vet that day and was told he had a build up of fluid that he could not clear and also his heart rate had risen to 200 which his little body would not be able to sustain for very long. he was given another diaretic and i had to up the dose of the diaretic he was already on
    i had to take him back to the vet on the monday to check the heart. on the saturday he seemed a little better and he actually wet himself so i took that as a sign that the new pill was working
    on the monday we went back to the vet but his heart rate had risen to 240 which was not good so they recommended he have an ECG the next morning.
    on the tuesday he went and had his ECG the results were not great and he was given a third diaretic and also a beta blocker just to try our best but really the quality of life was not great anymore and we were to take him back to the vet on the friday.
    that tuesday evening after the ECG he had his new tablets at about 5.30pm but his stomach started to swell with fluid again
    ainsley passed that evening at just after 7pm (tuesday 10th august 2010)
    it was very quick he had no pain, but most of all he passed at home. i think it was his time and he made the decision to go himself rather than us struggle with the decision ourselves.
    i just want to let people know that this is an awful and heartbreaking disease and ainsley was a very young dog. a lot of dogs live a good few years with this disease but it was not the case for us
    ainsley had a very very good life and was extremely loved.
    i hope my story can help someone else for what to look for and maybe when the time is to come
    we were advised to keep ainsley cool and not to get too excited and no walks

    thanks you for reading and any questions please feel free to ask

    thanks x

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    Hi Joanne,

    Sorry to hear about Ainsley. I read your post in private and then read it aloud to my partner and we both agreed that line for line (until more recent events) it is exactly how our Charlie's diagnosis came about.

    I asked initially if people could tell us what to expect and cried for about a week when I realised he didnt have long. However, I was confident when I noticed the medication he was given made him so much more comfortable, almost to the point where we had forgotten he was ill (other than the fact he cant exert himself much without getting stressed and start coughing).
    Although I was tearful whilst reading your post, it actually helped to hear how someone else coped with MVD and as the symptoms are so like for like, I assume he will follow similar to the end.

    Suffice to say, our own update, Charlie had his 6 week check last Tuesday and the vet was pleased that he has responded well to the meds. He told me not to be concerned about his dry nose and that, even though he is hardly having any exercise now, through reducing his food slightly, we have helped him lose 1.1lb since his last visit
    I have noticed he has started to go grey now, and that his hair is coming out in clumps rather than the usual moult, but he seems a happy little chappy

    I had to clip his nails, I hadnt realised without the walks how quickly his nails would grow, but I only managed to do his front and dew claws before he became too stressed - I could physically feel his heart beating, normally this would be quite an easy task.

    One thing Im struggling with is the cross between making Charlie comfortable (not over exertion with play/walks etc, general grooming...) and letting him do what he wants - running round the field even though he conks out so quickly, eating what he wants... Ive cut down his food to help him lose weight, but hes still scavenging, theres definitely no sign of loss of appetite atm!!

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    Sorry to pull up an old post, I've been meaning to get on here for ages, but it never happened

    I just wanted to let you know that I finally made the decision today to let Charlie go. I've just re-read my original message and knowing how I'm hurting right now, I can't imagine how I felt when I first found out about his heart disease.

    He put up a brave fight to the end, forever a waggy tail, but his breathing has been deteriorating rapidly over the last couple of weeks and even with an increase of his frusemide, his condition really wasn't improving.

    I stayed with him to the end and I'm very glad I did - he was his usual "no fuss" lad, just sat there while they shaved his paw and then helped him to peaceful sleep. The strangest thing was not hearing him snoring! But it was also a great relief to not hear him wheezing while he lay there, which he has been doing in his sleep for a few days.

    I opted for cremation and communal scattering, and intend to have a memorial plaque made for him.

    Thank you to everyone for your messages, it was a great help knowing how to cope at the end.

    R.I.P. Charlie, you may be gone, but you'll never be forgotten!

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    I'm so sorry may Charlie be playing free from pain and smiling down.

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    So sorry for your loss. I looked at the pictures of Charlie in your profile. He sure was handsome.
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    I am so sorry that Charlie is gone. Run free Charlie
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