Lani
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(This is not about a Cavalier, but a close relative. If this post is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it)
My sister's little dog Gemma, a 3 year old King Charles puppy mill rescue, (not Cavalier) has yelped occasionally in the past, but only isolated incidents. We were watching it and thinking of bringing her into the vet if it continued, but Thursday her pain seemed to escalate substantially ... like nothing we'd seen before.
When my sister came home to walk her, she refused to walk, refused to go down the steps, was yelping when Lynn tried to put her harness on, panting, quivering, and very soft stool. We rushed her to the vet, and he did a very thorough spinal exam, but didn't see any issues. He also took x-rays and bloodwork. We were not sure at that point if her issues might have been related to her back or stomach related (she had a gassy tummy and the x-ray lots of food still in it even though she hadn't eaten for 10 hours).
The x-ray showed no Calcified discs and the vet was unable to get a pain response from her during the exam, but when he sat her on the ground and Lynn went to pick her up, she yelped - even before being touched, so the vet knows she IS experiencing pain, but we've been unable to isolate the cause.
We asked our vet about SM he didn't seem to know what we were talking about. When we explained it, he said "oh God No".
Because we were not sure of what the issue was she started on Flagyl (in case pain was stomach related). Her stools are back to normal and her pain is continuing so we have pretty much ruled out tummy issues as the cause of her pain. Lynn called the vet and we put her on baby aspirin over the weekend. That did help some - her appetite and energy came back a bit when the aspirin was recently given, but pain and lethargy back when it was wearing off. So now she is on Tramadol plus the aspirin. We'd have to stop aspirin for a few days to put her on Steroids but that might be a next step in case it is a disk problem. We've known a Cavalier and King Charles with IVD (disc disease), and Gemma's symptoms are similar, but again, we really don't know.
(By the way, this morning she seems to be doing better, no yelping, some moaning when picked up, but her appetite is back and she is more energetic. We are keeping her confined now to her crate and the x-pen to keep her from Jumping and keep Lucky and Sparky from playing too rough with her.)
Here's my question - does anyone know how common SM is in King Charles/English Toys? Should we be pushing this issue with our vet? From what I've read, if she was a Cavalier, SM would seem pretty likely given her symptoms. Gemma has Pet Plan pet insurance. For those in the states, did you need a Neurologist referral in order to have the visit covered by Pet Insurance?
Any advice or insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
By the way, here is a picture of Gemma with my Lucky Star rescue Sparky:
My sister's little dog Gemma, a 3 year old King Charles puppy mill rescue, (not Cavalier) has yelped occasionally in the past, but only isolated incidents. We were watching it and thinking of bringing her into the vet if it continued, but Thursday her pain seemed to escalate substantially ... like nothing we'd seen before.
When my sister came home to walk her, she refused to walk, refused to go down the steps, was yelping when Lynn tried to put her harness on, panting, quivering, and very soft stool. We rushed her to the vet, and he did a very thorough spinal exam, but didn't see any issues. He also took x-rays and bloodwork. We were not sure at that point if her issues might have been related to her back or stomach related (she had a gassy tummy and the x-ray lots of food still in it even though she hadn't eaten for 10 hours).
The x-ray showed no Calcified discs and the vet was unable to get a pain response from her during the exam, but when he sat her on the ground and Lynn went to pick her up, she yelped - even before being touched, so the vet knows she IS experiencing pain, but we've been unable to isolate the cause.
We asked our vet about SM he didn't seem to know what we were talking about. When we explained it, he said "oh God No".
Because we were not sure of what the issue was she started on Flagyl (in case pain was stomach related). Her stools are back to normal and her pain is continuing so we have pretty much ruled out tummy issues as the cause of her pain. Lynn called the vet and we put her on baby aspirin over the weekend. That did help some - her appetite and energy came back a bit when the aspirin was recently given, but pain and lethargy back when it was wearing off. So now she is on Tramadol plus the aspirin. We'd have to stop aspirin for a few days to put her on Steroids but that might be a next step in case it is a disk problem. We've known a Cavalier and King Charles with IVD (disc disease), and Gemma's symptoms are similar, but again, we really don't know.
(By the way, this morning she seems to be doing better, no yelping, some moaning when picked up, but her appetite is back and she is more energetic. We are keeping her confined now to her crate and the x-pen to keep her from Jumping and keep Lucky and Sparky from playing too rough with her.)
Here's my question - does anyone know how common SM is in King Charles/English Toys? Should we be pushing this issue with our vet? From what I've read, if she was a Cavalier, SM would seem pretty likely given her symptoms. Gemma has Pet Plan pet insurance. For those in the states, did you need a Neurologist referral in order to have the visit covered by Pet Insurance?
Any advice or insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
By the way, here is a picture of Gemma with my Lucky Star rescue Sparky:
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