Kate H
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The abstracts (summaries) of all the talks are now available on the Cavalier Club site (www.thecavalierclub.co.uk).
Kate, Oliver and Aled
Kate, Oliver and Aled
The abstracts (summaries) of all the talks are now available on the Cavalier Club site (www.thecavalierclub.co.uk).
I noticed that Simon Swift once again reiterated the necessity of all cavalier breeders following the MVD breeding protocol. It would be nice if more breeders would pay attention to him.
There are now breeders that are health testing eyes, hearts, and for SM, and using the breeding guidelines.
There are however a core of breeders, often very successful in the show ring, that just continue to breed as they have always done, with very young cavaliers, with back to back matings, in a way that would bring accusations of puppy farming if they were not at the top of the show world.
Some of them were sitting in the lecture room at the Cavalier Club Health Day. Some of them are regional club health representatives and others are committee members.
These are the breeders that did everything to deny the problem and sabotage the attempts to investigate the extent and cause of the health issues in the breed.
They still attempt to rubbish and deny the research and researchers.
Cavaliers are a very sick breed, the Foetal Tissue Research has shown that they are born already health compromised, and breeders have to take responsibility and start breeding away from the problems.
I will be quite honest, I can accept that some people are just too mercenary to care about the dogs they breed and the people they sell their puppies to................but what I find it hard to get my head around is the nice caring breeders that allow such tawdry people to dominate the breed.
The ordinary decent club members know that these people say one thing and do something else, they know they are hypocrites, and yet they hand them this power and play along with the charade.
It would be good if a few more club members found the guts to speak openly what they only dare say in private.
There is a publication called the Kennel Club Breed Record Supplement. It is a quarterly publication that record the litters registered in that four month period.
I have just started writing to complain to the cavalier clubs when I see that club members, and more particularly, committee members have broken the guidelines.
It really is time to change the climate of opinion that allows these arrogant people to openly continue using unscanned top sires, underage champions and fourteen month old bitches and still remain on club committees unchallenged.
... There are however a core of breeders, often very successful in the show ring, that just continue to breed as they have always done, with very young cavaliers, with back to back matings, in a way that would bring accusations of puppy farming if they were not at the top of the show world. ...
It is a lot easier to when champion points when you don't follow breeding protocols.
To those breeders who are very successful in the show ring, but do not follow the protocols:
Your champions are a sad joke, and you are doing more to destroy the future generations of this breed than all of the puppy farmers, because it is your dogs that become breeding stock, generation after generation.
And ain't that the truth.
I've blogged about the last talk. It was fascinating, but to me really worrying.
It appears that some breeders are hailing Dr McGonnell's findings as the " light at the end of the tunnel" but I cannot understand why.
If all cavaliers, as appears from this study, are born with CM and weakened bone in their hind skull, then how is it ever going to be bred out.?
I think the impact of Dr McGonnell's talk was not that the problem of finding the gene which causes this fundamental lack of communication is going to be any easier, but that at least we MIGHT (big might!) be looking for one gene (or group of genes) rather than two completely different ones. And she was very cautious about it - obviously a lot of work needed and it may not lead anywhere. If anyone jumped to over-optimistic conclusions, they obviously weren't listening very carefully. But it is a fascinating possibility...
Kate, Oliver and Aled
CAVALIER HEALTH DAY
SO, is the most important Information for the SM Problem in our Cavaliers, MRI SCAN Cavalier Breeding Stock.
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SO, is the most important Information for the SM Problem in our Cavaliers, MRI SCAN Cavalier Breeding Stock
It is a lot easier to when champion points when you don't follow breeding protocols.
To those breeders who are very successful in the show ring, but do not follow the protocols:
Your champions are a sad joke, and you are doing more to destroy the future generations of this breed than all of the puppy farmers, because it is your dogs that become breeding stock, generation after generation.
CAVALIER HEALTH DAY.
As Rod has Posted ,it is the Cavalier Champions and the Cavaliers who are sucessful in the Show Ring and if their Owners are not following the Breeding Guideline Recommendations ,then they possibly are doing more harm to the Cavalier Breed than any other Folk in Cavaliers.
What does it matter about the Figures being Spun by those Cavalier Owners who keep Harping on about Puppy Farmers' Cavaliers , these are not the Cavaliers who are being Shown in the Show Ring,so Really it's time for that Red Herring to stop being mentioned.
With the Serious number of Cavalier Whelps with CM ,and I would think that most are from CKCS CLUB MEMBERS who are Breeders, it was mentioned by some-one about Light Being at the End of the Tunnel with the Cavaliers' SM Problem , must not under-stand any-thing about what this means , have just shown how Ignorant they are about this Problem.
What a Stupid Claim to have been Made!!
What Damage has been done to Cavaliers by this Senseless Comment, and unfortunately will be being Believed by others not knowing what this means.
That the Cavalier Breed is in Terrible State, and no amount of Spinning ,or trying to hide the Truth about their Health Problems will alter this Fact.
At the Moment as the Researchers said, Cavalier Breeders have to Follow the Breeding Guideline Recommendations, ...
These State that the Cavalier Brood Bitch should be a Minimum of 2.5 years of age ,with a CLEAR HEART ,and Parents with Clear Heart Certificates ,issued at 5 years or Older.
Also those same Breeding Guideline Recommendations apply to the Cavalier Stud Dog.
There are some Cavalier Breeders doing this, but if the Others feel that cannot do this, then as the Saying Goes.
If They can't Stand the Heat ,then Get Out of the Kitchen,and leave the Breeding of Cavaliers to the Cavalier Breeders who truly Care about the Future of our Breed.
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It is a lot easier to when champion points when you don't follow breeding protocols.
To those breeders who are very successful in the show ring, but do not follow the protocols:
Your champions are a sad joke, and you are doing more to destroy the future generations of this breed than all of the puppy farmers, because it is your dogs that become breeding stock, generation after generation.
I received a regional club magazine today and in it there were a lot of statistics about the percentage of non-club-member breeders registering litters with the Kennel Club. These figures are being widely quoted by the apologists of the breeders you mention above.
I would like to suggest that those that are so vehement that all the problems stem from puppy farmers and not club members, that top stud dogs are now MRI'd, & they are now all breeding to the protocols should go and look up Harry Frankfurt in Wikipaedia.
I too have done a little statistics gathering in the Breed Record Supplement for the past 12 months and it makes interesting reading.
Cavalier Club committee members using young dogs from the age of 9 months, and frequently since. Two litters to the owner/breeders in the Summer Edition, and a litter registered in the latest BRS when he was still only 18 months.
Three dogs from one litter, one a Champion, one of the others a CC winner, all being used before they are two years old.
One of the most eloquent defenders of club members, a Kennel Club Accredited Breeder, regional chairman and health representative, registered two litters in Spring 2010.
One of them from her homebred 15 month dog. He was used again Autumn 2010, still under 2 years.
The other litter was by a bought in dog aged 2 years.
This is someone who has just written.........
"The MAJORITY of cavaliers bred in this country are not bred by club members but BYB's and Puppy Farmers. These people will do NOTHING towards this breed having a healthy future."
Go look up Harry Frankfurt. Those that say one thing and do another is exactly who he wrote about.
Puppy farmers exist, they do not use health testing, but is that a reason to excuse the cavalier club members that ignore the protocols?
How can club members, who say they will follow Codes of Ethics when they join a cavalier club, be promoted as being better breeders than a puppy farmer, if they do not do what they have signed up to?
Even worse they tell everyone, KC, researchers and the puppy buying public that they are doing everything they should, and blame the health testing protocols when cavalier health continues to worsen.
Are they not more despicable than BYBs when they know what a dire state the breed is in, but they choose to follow their own wishes, their own covenience, their own need to breed puppies from young improperly tested parents and sell them as top show stock for inflated prices?
It is a fact that whereas well bred dogs often figure in puppy farm pedigrees, it is unknown for top show dogs to have unknown affixes in theirs.
Puppy farmers are not responsible for the health problems in show bred dogs. Bad breeders that will not even give the health protocols a chance are.
If club breeders followed the protocols.........
1. We could say with confidence that club breeders are more responsible than puppy buyers, that their puppies cost more because they care for the parents better and only breed from them when they are older and have been checked and shown to be clear of early-onset MVD and SM.
2. We would all know for sure if the protocols are the way to breed away from the problems.
It is no good blaming the researchers for the lack of progress when guidelines have been ignored, and we have not provided the evidence needed to show whether they can really work.
What is it with some Cavalier Breeders that they have to Resort to a PR Exercise when-ever the Health Problems in our Cavaliers are Mentioned. ...
http://ackcscharitabletrust.org/health/hearts.htmlCavalier King Charles Spaniels are generally healthy, sturdy, small dogs. However, as with many other breeds, there are health concerns. The number one health concern is a form of degenerative valve disease called Mitral Valve Disease (MVD). Please take time to review this health summary.
Cavalier Clubs throughout the world are active in fighting diseases and disorders in this beloved breed by providing health clinics, funding breed specific research and delivering breed education programs. The findings from surveys performed by the late George A. Padgett, DVM, Veterinary Pathologist & Professor Emeritus at the College of Veterinary Medicine of Michigan State University and author of Control of Canine Genetic Diseases, indicate that mixed-breed dogs have more genetic diseases than purebred dogs. There are 215 known diseases in mixed-breed dogs, with 71 percent of them having defective genes. The idea that a mixed-breed dog is likely to have fewer genetic diseases than a purebred is a misconception.