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    So nice to hear from you again and know that Abbey is still relatively okay. She has been such a little Wonder Dog.

    My one and only Tommy has very weak and shaky back legs. I have always presumed that it is due to his SM.
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    Gentle hugs to Abbey Lovely to hear from you and hope Abbey will be ok.
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    I still haven't heard anything from my vet. I know him and know that he called neuro right away although there is the possibility that something has prevented that. I will call this afternoon to see why no call.

    Margaret--how long has yours been like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by linderbelle View Post
    I still haven't heard anything from my vet. I know him and know that he called neuro right away although there is the possibility that something has prevented that. I will call this afternoon to see why no call.

    Margaret--how long has yours been like that?
    Tommy ( age ten ) has had shaky legs for well over a year. Sometimes they appear dreadfully weak, other times the shake is almost non-existent. He also gets very twitchy sometimes, a real noddy dog, but Clare Rusbridge did not think that was SM, but another peculiarity of aging cavaliers.l

    Matthew ( age 11 ) and William ( age 14 ) also had SM and both developed very shaky legs.

    I suppose that one should be careful drawing too many conclusions as all three developed severe MVD murmurs, so perhaps the weakness in the hind quarters could also relate to general weakness caused by heart problems.

    I hope you get some answers soon.
    Margaret C

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    Heart problems can definitely be associated with weak legs; have seen that listed a few places. My Lucy is noticeably wobbly on her hindquarters now, with an advanced grade murmur.

    Leo is a bit wobbly from SM -- has never had great hind leg strength and easily loses his balance if say he jumps up on a lap (so I always have to be ready to stabilise him!).

    So I would guess that if she is doing well otherwise, the problem is probably minor and associated with the SM over time, or another cause.
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    Hi everybody. My vet and her neuro have been playing tag for days and they finally connected this weekend. I heard by e-mail from Dr. Shore this a.m. requesting what meds she's on. He did also say from speaking with her vet that he's not overly alarmed and wants to help us find a solution. Stay tuned. With luck I may not have to go to Mississippi--not sure I would at this point with all the flooding going on. I will post as soon as I hear the plan. Thanks!!!
    Linda, Georgia, USA
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    My vet called on thursday and told me that Dr. Shores wanted an x-ray of her stomach so hubby took her in. I imagine my vet mailed the x-rays to Dr. Shores on friday so hopefully soon we will hear something of the plan that Dr. Shores has.
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    Winston--shih tzu-male, Darby female tri, Bentley male blenheim and Chelsea, black-tan
    Abbey my beloved tri who is so embedded in my heart--RIP Sweet Princess

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    I still know nothing.

    I need to get with regular vet to figure out what to do.

    [edited by admin to remove personal comments about an individual. If people wish to PM or email you privately for an update, that is fine. -- Karlin]
    Linda, Georgia, USA
    Winston--shih tzu-male, Darby female tri, Bentley male blenheim and Chelsea, black-tan
    Abbey my beloved tri who is so embedded in my heart--RIP Sweet Princess

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    Ok all I have heard from Dr. Shores and we're trying to come up with a plan as I'm having surgery in 9 days and will be down for awhile--knee replacement. Yesterday I was able to get a great video of what we are dealing with and I know I will get some great feedback from ya'll.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jllwW-qfl0o

    This is more prevalent with her when she is excited and as you can hear from the background all dogs were barking demanding breakfast. This was the first thing yesterday morning.
    Linda, Georgia, USA
    Winston--shih tzu-male, Darby female tri, Bentley male blenheim and Chelsea, black-tan
    Abbey my beloved tri who is so embedded in my heart--RIP Sweet Princess

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    To be honest? I think part of the problem is very likely that she looks quite obese, coupled with her SM and existing neurological damage pre-surgery -- her hind legs may simply now not be able to manage the weight she is carrying in any coordinated way, if she already has neurological deficits.

    I know a heavy westie who nearly had to be put down because he was carrying a lot of extra weight which had caused spinal damage that was making his hind legs very wobbly in a similar way -- you could see the effect in an xray and it was very serious: the vet was not even sure he would not need to be euthenised; his one chance was to take the weight off and see if he would recover some ability to move around (he couldn't by then even raise his leg to pee). He is still around and lost about a third of his overall weight, but has permanent disability from the issues the extra weight caused.

    Have you talked to an orthopedist about what may be going on? I just wonder whether this anything at all to do with her SM and may be her weight; or if there's a cause and affect with the weight maikng it hard for her to manage to walk if she already had existing damage.

    Also she seems unable to get any kind of grip on the smooth wood floor which won;t be helping the situation -- I'd be sure to clip out all the hair from between her foot pads etc or have a groomer do this so that she isn;t sliding on her fur, and also then get something on the floor like those plastic walkway strips you can place on carpets, or area rugs/runners. My friend did this for her elderly labs when they found it difficult to get any grip on a wood floor and she was afraid they would fall and hurst themselves. Is Abbey finding it this hard to get to her feet when on carpet as well?

    If it turns out she cannot recover the use of her legs there are small carts you can get for them but this would be very hard for her if she is hauling extra weight -- you'd want to get her quite fit and lean.

    For her health overall and to help give her every chance to recover some ability to walk normally, I would really focus on getting about a third of her weight off gradually. Especially if she isn't getting much exercise given her disability, I'd maybe halve her food -- she cannot burn off the calories she would have had as a norm in the past.
    Karlin
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