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    Default Thanks Karlin... good points that I was not aware of...

    As it turns out, the female dog we had a chance to get is not an option anymore. Another male has surfaced that we are investigating... so the search continues for new family member.

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    I am so sorry...it is hard to go through ups and downs of finding a new pet for your family. Good luck with your continued journey.

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    Just to throw another opinion in - my two girls are like velcro. They are half sisters, thirteen months apart, 7.5 and 8.5 years old. The two that fight are Madison, the younger female and Oz, the younger male, and it is always right after breakfast if it's going to happen at all. I stay in the kitchen with them while they eat and separate Madison and Oz so that if there is a real fight I can break it up immediately. Madison lays in wait for Oz to finish his food and if he walks by her, she attacks him. He just blows it off and doesn't engage with her at all. He has learned now though not to walk by her, but to just finish his food and hop up into the closest chair without crossing her path. She sometimes looks very disappointed that she doesn't get her daily aggression out on him. Other than that one time though, they all seem to get along.
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    I honestly wouldn't prioritise this issue, but it is good to have it be part of a consideration. All else being equal though, I would go for adding a male for the reasons I noted before. However, the issue is really going to be whether the individual dogs get along, and whether you find you like having two rather than one as there's more work and cost (speaking as one who paid two vet bills in one week for unexpected situations!). I don't think there is any real pro and con to having males as opposed to females. I personally prefer males for general and minor personality reasons but each individual is different and it isn't that big of a deal.

    I'd also keep in mind that trainers generally feel a second dog shouldn't be added till the existing dog is mature, 18-24 months and well trained. That IMHO is a far more critical part of the decision than male or female with cavaliers. Many breeders won't home a puppy into a home where the existing dog is younger than 18 months.

    I can say from experience that I added a second dog too early. Jaspar was about 9-10 months and really deserved and needed another 8-12 months just as a solo dog. I was too impatient and that ended up not being fair on either dog for many reasons. I am sorry I didn't give Jaspar that time, and that Leo (about the same age as jaspar) got a lot less time as I was still trying to also work with Jaspar.
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    Default The dog we would get likely will not be available until August

    So Gracie would be about age 14 months. I agree with Karlin that the key is that they get along... we have an agreement that we can test this out for several weeks to see how it goes. This woman is one of the best regarded breeders and actually has MRIed her dogs. This male has been shown but does not enjoy the frequent travel of a show dog. He is 3 years old and also has started carrying his tail too high (which cracks me up not being a show dog person... I like the high tails!)

    Gracie has completed all four training courses (4-6 classes each) and done very well. But like all dogs, more training is good!

    I do understand the financial issues too. The breeder has already shared all of his medical information and his vet has permission to talk to me as well. He has not had any illnesses, but did get treated for a scrape a year ago.

    This are all things we are considering...so will see how it goes. We will not meet him for at least 3 weeks and then it would be several more before we would get him as he is already in 3 more shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraciesMom View Post
    So Gracie would be about age 14 months. I agree with Karlin that the key is that they get along... we have an agreement that we can test this out for several weeks to see how it goes.
    I am glad that you can test it out and not commit. Think about all the opportunities that have come, there will be others so the most important thing is to use this time and be honest with yourself and the breeder. One reason people come to you is because they know you will make a good home and personally I know how much you care for gracie. I would want to live with you

    On the serious side, forget financial issues, it was tough for me to get used to walking 2 dogs this weekend. I know that's small but I really don't know how brian does it. When I would keep kennedy, it was tough with feeding etc. Just tell her and I'm sure she will understand BUT be firm that you really just want to see how it goes and what's best. Your opinion, thoughts, research are most important.


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    Default So true Anniemac!

    I have will have to continue to be clear about this being a test... so we will see what happens. I agree that other options may come up too that may be an even better fit. I do think a slightly younger male would be better!

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    FWIW, when we added a second dog to our family, 20+ years ago, I was advised to get the opposite gender of the existing family dog. This avoids any dominance issues (although that is no guarantee if both are type-A dogs). It worked for us.

    Our Sophie is quite the diva/princess, and she does not like our son & DIL's female dog. I've never seen Sophie growl and snarl, except when Belle is over here and gets too physically close to Sophie (like butt-sniffing or wanting to engage in rowdy play).

    It might be that Belle is a large dog, 55-lbs, but I also think it's a dominance/jealously issue, even though their pup is very sweet, submissive and respectful of Sophie. (Their Belle is the only large dog allowed to play with the smaller dogs at doggie-daycare)

    We always praise our Sophie when she is kind to Belle, but Sophie can be a real b!tch, has her boundaries and is quite firm about them. Yet she is sweet as a truckload of sugar to people. I can't help but think that things might be easier if the kids had gotten a male dog.

    Sophie is not keen on other dogs anyway, as they don't pet and hug her, so she mostly ignores them despite being socialized with dogs in the neighborhood. She is definitely a "people" dog. If we added a second dog, it would definitely be a male.

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    Hi Annie

    Brian manages walking all four with no problem at all .Firstly because we have double leads for when they are on lead I take Lily and Rosie and Luke has Poppy and Daisy but most important of all Brian manages because he drags Luke (who will be 16 on 29th August ) with him on each and every walk ,so if any do a runner I just shout Lukeeeeeeeee go get her .And as Luke doesn't read this I can also say he hasn't had his head turned yet by the fairer sex but when that happens I suppose I will just about cope and have done on a few occasions but I know I will struggle so for now his head is occupied with his exams ,his revision and his video games to relax and his Shotokan for exercise and to block out all else.
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    I, on the other hand, do not have a Luke at home and end up taking my dogs for walks two by two. It just seems easier that way. I get to train them more easily and
    I get more exercise - although sometimes I am bone tired. I take the two most difficult ones together - Oz and Maddie - because they need the same type of work. Riley and Oliver are a dream to walk. I've tried every combination and you might think that the easy ones would wear off on the difficult ones, but no way. They're learning though. It only takes about three steps out the front door now before they settle down and we can have a quiet walk.
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