
Originally Posted by
Karlin
Agree with Davecav on all points noted.
The fact that the dogs have no pedigree is a HUGE red flag. I wouldn't even bother going to look at them simply as puppies pretty much look the same, they are all cute, and too easily one can be tempted to 'save' a pup from a bad breeding situation/dirty house/stupid breeder etc if that is what is encountered -- which only supports their poor breeding programme. No reputable, club member, health testing breeder would be selling unregistered puppies -- that means they cannot be tracked, there's no public record, and most likely her own dogs are not registered and therefore, suspect -- or that she is not supposed to be breeding under restrictions from the breeder she got her dogs from.
ALL the breeders as far as I know using the SM protocol in the Netherlands are club breeders who would ALWAYS register their puppies.
I would really PM Margaret to see if she has the name of some of the Dutch breeders involved in MRI scanning -- it is small but significant group. Otherwise you are wasting your time in health terms. If a scanning breeder doesn't have any available puppies then they can likely refer you to others who do.
The age (9 weeks vs whatever other age) is not that significant here -- the issue is unregistered dogs which is a major siren going off to stay away. I prefer puppies to be 10 weeks plus myself -- I think it's better for the pups to stay with mum and siblings longer for socialisation and they are awfully small at anything under that. But 9 weeks wouldn't be a major issue.
I think you should be aware that if you go and see the puppies before checking out on the certificates you will find it hard to walk away.
When you see a litter of bright-eyed playful little fluff balls you will find it hard to believe that there could ever be anything wrong with any of them.
If the breeder is friendly and talks convincingly you will be embarrassed to show that you do not trust her word, especially when she explains to you just why all these certificates are not necessary as her cavaliers have no health problems.
No reputable breeder would sell puppies without a pedigree. They are proud of what they breed and willing to be accountable.
Unregistered puppies cannot be checked on in any way. There is no proof of their age, of their parentage. There would only be your word that the puppy came from that breeder if things go wrong.
I agree with what DaveCav & Karlin have written, but we can only describe what happens in the UK and Ireland, so things like endorsements of pedigrees may be different in the Netherlands.
If you contact the breeders shown on the Guild website that I have already given you, they will hopefully be able to give you the help and information you need.
Margaret C
Cavaliers......Faith, The Ginger Tank and Woody.
Japanese Chins.... Dandy, Benny, Bridgette and Hana.
Remembered with love......... Tommy Tuppence and Fonzi
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