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    Hi everyone We are taking Rossi to Chestergates again on Friday as he has been getting worse. As you know Rossi was diagnosed in April by mri and has been on gabapentin 3 times daily with metacam for bad pain episodes. To be honest, although he hasn't had any bad pain episodes since he has been on it, his face rubbing and ear scratching hasn't stopped and have become more frequent and he has developed a bad limp on his front right leg. He can hardly move around after he has been resting and seems better when out for a walk. What are your experiences? Is gabapentin supposed to stop the scratching, rubbing etc.? I am going to ask the neurologist about a csf inhibitor as he hasn't even mentioned this to us and I know that most of your dogs are taking one. Our neurologist said thatRossi has a small syrinx, do you think that is the reason he has mentioned a csf inhibitor as he perhaps was going to suggest it if Rossi deteriorated?

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    Did Rossi's MRI show that he had dilated ventricles as well as a small syrinx? My Oliver also has a small syrinx, but most of his problems come from his greatly dilated ventricles, which give him headaches and eye problems (he squints in strong light due to interference with the mechanism of his pupils). The dilated ventricles (rather then the syrinx) also seem to have affected the nerves in his right front leg, though this is much better now, 2 years on. I would definitely discuss a CSF inhibitor with the neurologist, as this could reduce the pressure of the ventricles (if Rossi has a problem here!).

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    Thanks for your reply Kate. Our neurologist never mentioned dilated ventricles to us so I don't know anything about them, but I will ask him about thyem on Friday.

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    When Oliver was scanned at Chestergates (this was just a mini-scan designed for breeders to know whether or not their breeding stock have SM - I'm not a breeder but just wanted to check on Oliver), we were given a certificate which showed the results of the scan at the bottom. There is a list of symptoms that are ticked if present: cerebellar herniation, dilated ventricles, syringomyelia. middle ear disease. If you were given a similar certificate, you will be able to see if Rossi was ticked for dilated ventricles (and how big they are - Oliver's are 3 times bigger than normal).

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    We weren't given anything at all Kate, Luca just told us that Rossi had syringomyelia and showed us the herniation and the syrinx and prescribed gabapentin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavluvver View Post
    We weren't given anything at all Kate, Luca just told us that Rossi had syringomyelia and showed us the herniation and the syrinx and prescribed gabapentin.
    If this was a full MRI scan for diagnostic purposes ( cost about £1,500- £2,000 ) then there will have been a report sent to your Vet and you can ask for a copy.

    The continuing scratching and rubbing & now the limping would suggest that the SM symptoms are getting worse, and obviously the gabapentin is either not working well for Rossi or the dose may need to be increased.

    My Tommy had to go from 100mg three times a day to 200mg x 3 when his symptoms worsened. He now needs Lyrica which I think could be described as a newer, stronger and more expensive successor to gabapentin.
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    This forum is so helpful! I hope your little guy got some good news at the neurologist.

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    Hi everyone sorry it's taken me so long to get back, I've got such a lot on at the moment with my son waiting for surgery to remove a thyroid tumour, I don't know if I am coming or going. The neurologist at chestergates has booked Rossi in on Thursday for a mini MRI this time to check on the development of the syrinx. If it has got a lot bigger since April he wants to discuss surgery [ putting in a shunt] If it hasn't he wants to discuss different medications. When I mentioned CSF inhibitors and that I had been on this forum he gave me a look of disapproval and said that I was getting lots of people's '' opinions''. I told him that I valued your opinions as you have experienced syringomyelia and were seeing the effect of certain medications on your own dogs. He said that omeprozole can cause stomach tumours and didn't like to use it for more than 6 weeks, but was willing to give it ago if Rossi's syrinx hadn't got much bigger. He also said that he didn't think Rossi's limping was nuerological and he asked Francois who deals with orthopedics to examine him and he now wants Rossi to have a CT scan on Thursday too. So we could be dealing with two conditions now, rather than one. So now we just have to wait and see what's happens on Thursday. There seems to be nothing but worry at the moment, it's exhausting, as long as my son and my dog are okay that's all that matters. Thanks again and I'll let you know how we get on on Thursday

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    Sorry you're having such a hard time, and hope your son's operation will be completely successful.

    Oliver developed spondylosis (osteoarthritis of the spine) at the same time he had his first recognisable SM symptoms - his three affected vertebrae are more or less above his small syrinx! The spondylosis gave him quite a lot of pain in his lower spine and very wobbly back legs, but several weeks of crate rest helped enormously.

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    Just to say that my Harley was diagnosed with CM/SM (he got a 3mm syrinx and a secondary ventriculomegaly) And all he done was limp on his front leg for a month. As he was an agility dog we thought it was an injury. They done X-Rays, blood tests and took fluid out of his shoulder bone. The MRI Scan showed SM but the vet who is also an orthopaedic surgeon was not convinced that the limping was coursed by SM. The limping disappeared all by itself without medication. All he is on at the moment is Zitac to hopefully slow the progression of SM.
    One other thing donít let him push you into surgery. Take time to think about it and weigh up the pros & cons and talk to people about it. Clare Rusbridge actually suggested to my vet that I go on this Forum and talk to people about their experiences.
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