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    Hiya

    I really struggled with crate training Charlie as he was rescued from a very poor situation where he was locked in a crate/cage for vvery long periods of time so he saw it as a very negative place to be put!

    But with help rom my little super star Rubestar!!! We got there in the end. I got an extra large crate so it wasn't as small and confined and one that they would both fit in! Ruby was trained in a crate from 8 weeks old so she thinks of it like home!

    It took a long time- nearly 3 months for him to be happy in there on his own, but as Karlin said- a crate trained dog is so much more versatile.

    When a dog is left at the vets for instance- they are put in a crate!! When they stay at my parents for a night, they sleep in a crate downstairs and are very happy. Not a sound from either of them!
    They have a crate in the car for travelling in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlin View Post
    If you haven't, be sure to download After You Get Your Puppy here (it's free! ) as that might help a LOT towards setting up a better night environment for both of you and give ideas of how to start structuring her days.

    http://www.dogstardaily.com/free-downloads
    One of these books says that you must introduce new puppies to at least 100 people in the first 3 months for proper socialization!!! (????) Is this true - even for our type of dog? I am already nervous about getting a puppy, but now I'm really worried about having a sweet puppy. I was hoping getting her from a good breeder will take care of this without having to introduce her to a lot of people.
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    100 people sounds like a lot unless you think of it as about one a day, and it's easy to encounter a handful on a walk. Our lifestyle is by no means socially active because of all the work raising a dog, but our routine involves a variety of different places to walk and encounter strangers. She's a bit cautious with people she doesn't know and she's very sweet with people she knows she can trust. Puppy class may make things easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu View Post
    100 people sounds like a lot unless you think of it as about one a day, and it's easy to encounter a handful on a walk. Our lifestyle is by no means socially active because of all the work raising a dog, but our routine involves a variety of different places to walk and encounter strangers. She's a bit cautious with people she doesn't know and she's very sweet with people she knows she can trust. Puppy class may make things easier.
    What you say makes sense, but I guess this is the disconnect - Until the puppy is 3 months old, don't we have to avoid other dogs? So, I wouldn't be walking her "in public" until that age. (I'll be getting her at 2 months.) I think also I read to avoid Petsmart and such places until she has her shots. What do do???
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    It isn;t hard to have a puppy meet people -- you can carry a pup around and have friends in etc, or carry to the front door and so on. People with vaccinated afult dogs can come to visit too or take your pup to their home. Wals should be reserved til the end of the puppy vax series but lots of trainers do puppy socialisation classes that can start right at that point.

    A breeder cannot do more than give basic socialisation but you will see Ian Dunbar and others stress being being socialised to a dog's own litter or other dogs in the home is inadequate and lack of socialisation probably causes more dog problems and people problems than any single other thing. Socialisation is a lifelong task for owners to prevent problems and puppyhood, especially early puppyhood, is an absolutely critical window which can prevent remedial work that is far far higher (and less successful).

    Think of kids -- they can have the nicest home life but if they don't meet lots of other people --adults as well as children -- they will have lifelong problems.

    You don't need exactly 100 but a single puppy class would probably include your pup meeting 10-30 people in a single go! (in between people in class or leaving/arriving for others).

    Ps a puppy at 8 weeks is barely socialised even to its own litter. A lot of breeders do not home puppies til a minimum of 10 weeks, usually 12 weeks -- as the pup ends up much better socialised and well started on housetrainng etc. The best adjusted and most social and confident puppies I have ever met in a coupe of breeds are those bred by really good breeders who home at 12 weeks.
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    Sorry, I thought you meant the first three months after getting a puppy. In the beginning we invited people over to meet Nalu and we brought her places where she was just quickly introduced and then brought back home. Everyone loved meeting her.

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    Ian Dunbar and other trainers do suggest exposure to at least 100 people and lots of dogs in the first three months -- it is a critical exposure period.

    http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...on-with-people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calandra View Post
    What you say makes sense, but I guess this is the disconnect - Until the puppy is 3 months old, don't we have to avoid other dogs? So, I wouldn't be walking her "in public" until that age. (I'll be getting her at 2 months.) I think also I read to avoid Petsmart and such places until she has her shots. What do do???

    I was really confused and nervous about proper socialization too. I wasn't sure how to go about it without putting my puppy at risk, but we tried to take Sonny to various family and friend's houses and we let him play with adult dogs that we knew were fully vaccinated. And I would say puppy preschool was the most important! I would highly recommend it! We didn't start until Sonny was 11 weeks old, but I wish we would have started as soon as we got him at 9 weeks. I really noticed a difference in the way Sonny interacted with dogs, our cat and people after his classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlin View Post
    It isn;t hard to have a puppy meet people -- you can carry a pup around and have friends in etc, or carry to the front door and so on. People with vaccinated afult dogs can come to visit too or take your pup to their home. Wals should be reserved til the end of the puppy vax series but lots of trainers do puppy socialisation classes that can start right at that point.

    A breeder cannot do more than give basic socialisation but you will see Ian Dunbar and others stress being being socialised to a dog's own litter or other dogs in the home is inadequate and lack of socialisation probably causes more dog problems and people problems than any single other thing. Socialisation is a lifelong task for owners to prevent problems and puppyhood, especially early puppyhood, is an absolutely critical window which can prevent remedial work that is far far higher (and less successful).

    Think of kids -- they can have the nicest home life but if they don't meet lots of other people --adults as well as children -- they will have lifelong problems.

    You don't need exactly 100 but a single puppy class would probably include your pup meeting 10-30 people in a single go! (in between people in class or leaving/arriving for others).

    Ps a puppy at 8 weeks is barely socialised even to its own litter. A lot of breeders do not home puppies til a minimum of 10 weeks, usually 12 weeks -- as the pup ends up much better socialised and well started on housetrainng etc. The best adjusted and most social and confident puppies I have ever met in a coupe of breeds are those bred by really good breeders who home at 12 weeks.
    This was very helpful - thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu View Post
    Sorry, I thought you meant the first three months after getting a puppy. In the beginning we invited people over to meet Nalu and we brought her places where she was just quickly introduced and then brought back home. Everyone loved meeting her.
    No problem - thanks Nalu. I can handle doing that!
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