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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlin View Post
    Basically asking why anyone would bother setting up another club when the kennel club already is full of breed clubs that people can join–which kind of misses the point. I am sure there will be a good response to Margaret's proposal, just as there was a very good response in California.
    Several of us who belong to the local AKC show club had decided we needed a group that was more focused on pet ownership and not so much on show issues. Cavaliers as a breed have become so much more prevalent in the past few years. And many new pet owners don't feel comfortable belonging to a show club feeling they are out of place as solely non-show owners. Our new group will meet 8 times a year with 4 of our meetings being education focused. We've gotten a terrific response!! I meet so many new Cavalier people who really want to learn more about how to care for their Cavaliers and about Cavalier health issues but aren't interested in the show aspects of ownership. Now I can comfortably invite them to join a serious pet based club....and when I say "serious" I mean we aren't just a social club. We are not under the auspices of any formal organization (ie AKC). There are plenty of people to fulfill membership in both types of clubs....in fact, several of our members belong to both the AKC club and our group. There isn't a conflict of interest since we are not at all show involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spangly View Post
    What a great idea Margaret ! I would be very happy to join and help in any way I could.
    Christine you are such a wonderful fund raiser, there is no way we would let somone like you opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petstalk View Post
    I would lov to Join and help in anyway I can x
    A willing volunteer. We would love to have you as a member.
    I will add you to the list of prospective members and be in touch in due course.
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    Thanks for the detail, Cathy! I think you will get a few more people thanks to this thread... . I had thought the club was within the AKC; my mistake. Perhaps not possible under the way they are organised? And maybe that will begin to change over time -- I do think owners without the show interest increasingly want a a serious involvement with their breed that show oriented clubs don't necessarily provide -- and want health and breed info, detailed and independent advice on finding a reputable breeder, breed-oriented fundraising activities, rescue, and the social side too. But are not interested in the show and breeding focus of typical breed clubs. I think that kind of companion club has a role within national kennel club organisations, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy T View Post
    I meet so many new Cavalier people who really want to learn more about how to care for their Cavaliers and about Cavalier health issues but aren't interested in the show aspects of ownership. Now I can comfortably invite them to join a serious pet based club....and when I say "serious" I mean we aren't just a social club. We are not under the auspices of any formal organization (ie AKC). There are plenty of people to fulfill membership in both types of clubs....in fact, several of our members belong to both the AKC club and our group. There isn't a conflict of interest since we are not at all show involved.
    I will be picking your brains for ideas that have worked for you.

    We do want to apply for registration with the KC, so we get consulted as a right when breed decisions are made, but it may prove difficult because we do not want to run conformation shows and so will not fully comply with the rules for breed clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margaret C View Post
    I will be picking your brains for ideas that have worked for you.

    We do want to apply for registration with the KC, so we get consulted as a right when breed decisions are made, but it may prove difficult because we do not want to run conformation shows and so will not fully comply with the rules for breed clubs.
    I have no idea what the rules are which will apply to KC affiliation but would it make any difference if you have a significant number of members who do show in conformation shows. The KC actively sponsor Companion shows too, so having members who enter those is surely relevant?

    Please add me to your list of probable members Margaret, but before committing myself I want to be sure of what exactly the aims and objectives of the new Club will be. There is no way I will ever align myself to breeder or conformation exhibitor bashing, but I am all in favour of reaching and educating pet owners, particularly concerning Cavalier health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByFloSin View Post
    I have no idea what the rules are which will apply to KC affiliation but would it make any difference if you have a significant number of members who do show in conformation shows. The KC actively sponsor Companion shows too, so having members who enter those is surely relevant?

    Please add me to your list of probable members Margaret, but before committing myself I want to be sure of what exactly the aims and objectives of the new Club will be. There is no way I will ever align myself to breeder or conformation exhibitor bashing, but I am all in favour of reaching and educating pet owners, particularly concerning Cavalier health.
    Although we hope that pet owners, breeders and exhibitors will join, it will not make any difference, when applying for registration, what activity the individual members do with their dogs.

    One of the problems that may arise is that KC regulations ask that breed clubs submit a list of approved judges every year. We will not be holding conformation shows so will not be drawing up such a list.

    The draft aims of the Club are shown on post 9 of this thread, if you are still interested after reading them perhaps you will be able to join us and add to the discussions at the meeting?
    Margaret C

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    I really wish I could be there at the Stoneleigh meeting Margaret. You may remember that I am waiting for surgery for cancer so it isn't a good idea to flog myself to death during the hiatus. I will be teaching IT for most of the day on the Wednesday, getting Little Joe bathed and groomed for the Champ Show and then travelling an hour and a half each way to the show at Stoneleigh on the Saturday, so reluctantly I have to take a rain check on the meeting.

    I would be really grateful if you could let me have a note of how things to Margaret and please keep my name on your list of probable members.
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    Flo & the ByFloSin Cavaliers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margaret C View Post
    I'm glad you think it is a good idea. You and Murphy are now on the list as potential members.

    Hopefully you will be able and willing to share your experiences with Murphy with others that take on a puppy farm dog and have health & training problems?
    Yes I am willing to share my experiences with owning a puppy farm dog. This is such a good idea. Will I have to write it up and it will be shared on a website??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurphysMummy View Post
    Yes I am willing to share my experiences with owning a puppy farm dog. This is such a good idea. Will I have to write it up and it will be shared on a website??
    You really don't have to do anything unless you want to, but that was what I was thinking could be a good idea, and perhaps owners with a newly adopted puppy farm dog could be put in contact with you and other owners, like Tania, who have experience of managing the special problems these unsocialised little dogs bring with them.

    We could also perhaps regularly feature a cavalier that is needing rehoming.

    Early days yet, we are still in the planning stages, so any suggestions welcomed.
    Margaret C

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