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    Owners of dead Labrador retriever sue New York veterinarian for prescribing Rimadyl. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...tuFhls400nuCvN
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    This article barely gives any details. And Rimadyl apparently does have a warning label, according to this article in USA Today.
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...ain-usat_x.htm

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    Rod, as I've pointed out on the other site you posted on it's only one side of the story. I feel there is more to this story than we know...

    I feel the title of your post raises alarm bells and there really is no need to sensationalize...all medications, for humans and dogs carry risks we need to be careful and make it our business to check side effects and risks and ask questions about what we take and what we give to our animals.

    I am surprised at the amount of people who give meds to animals or themselves that are prescribed and when you ask "what are they for how do they help" etc. they tell me they don't know!
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    Not a bad idea to be reminded that even commonly used drugs can be badly tolerated by some dogs. One of my Japanese Chins can't take metacam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippa View Post
    Rod, as I've pointed out on the other site you posted on it's only one side of the story. I feel there is more to this story than we know...

    I feel the title of your post raises alarm bells and there really is no need to sensationalize...all medications, for humans and dogs carry risks we need to be careful and make it our business to check side effects and risks and ask questions about what we take and what we give to our animals.

    I am surprised at the amount of people who give meds to animals or themselves that are prescribed and when you ask "what are they for how do they help" etc. they tell me they don't know!
    All I did was post a link to a newspaper article and let the article speak for itself, primarily for information purposes. I was interested in it, and I thought others might be, too, since Rimadyl is frequently prescribed for CM/SM. I don't know the other side of the story. That's all the newspaper article published on the subject.

    The title was not intended as a conclusion or a sensational comment; it essentially is a paraphrase of the headline of the article. In fact it is milder than the headline of the article.
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    I take your point Rob, just think a lot of these things get blown way out of proportion and we rarely get to the real story. It can scare some people as not everyone will read things the right way and can be influenced by these kind of posts.

    Maybe if the story your linked had given more detail like both sides of the story...? Newspapers publish stories everyday and most of them are a little far from the truth, some further than others...

    it's like those stories that pop up on Facebook with wild claims about something and then we find out it's been started by one (usually untrue) story that goes viral but a lot of people get taken in by them.

    Maybe your post was a little premature regardless of whether you meant well as in thinking others may be interested in it because your link gave very little info and was all one sided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippa View Post
    I take your point Rob, just think a lot of these things get blown way out of proportion and we rarely get to the real story. It can scare some people as not everyone will read things the right way and can be influenced by these kind of posts.

    Maybe if the story your linked had given more detail like both sides of the story...? Newspapers publish stories everyday and most of them are a little far from the truth, some further than others...

    it's like those stories that pop up on Facebook with wild claims about something and then we find out it's been started by one (usually untrue) story that goes viral but a lot of people get taken in by them.

    Maybe your post was a little premature regardless of whether you meant well as in thinking others may be interested in it because your link gave very little info and was all one sided.
    Pippa, I've been a newspaper journalist, and I can tell you from that experience that when certain lawsuits get filed, they are newsworthy. But when a lawsuit is filed, the only information usually available about the matter is what the "complaint" states. The rest of the story is yet to come.

    I found value in the article because it was about a drug often prescribed by veterinarians for dogs with CM/SM. The message to take away is that dogs possibly may die from Rimadyl and that care should be taken when giving it to your dogs. I have found that another popular drug, pimobendan, can kill dogs, too. This knowledge is, I think, important information for cavalier owners. If you don't care to know about it, then just skip over those posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodRussell View Post
    I have found that another popular drug, pimobendan, can kill dogs, too. This knowledge is, I think, important information for cavalier owners. If you don't care to know about it, then just skip over those posts.

    I could skip over those posts but I am also entitled to my opinion on your post, take for example your statement about Pimobendan, it can help dogs a lot too my Pippin has been much better with it and I feel it has prolonged his life and he has not got CHF, and I would think it has helped more dogs than it has killed. I'll say again ALL DRUGS HAVE RISKS...we need to make it our job to consult with vets thoroughly about what is prescribed, although I feel even that would not suit you as I have an excellent vet and you once implied or actually said that she didn't know what she was doing. It was when I posted about Pippin being on Pimobendan and a weeks trial of Fortekor you said...

    " If the MVD is only grade 1 or 2, then I doubt the panting and lack of energy are due to MVD.

    Fortekor is an ACE-inhibitor, and the official consensus statement of board certified cardiologists in the US -- the ACVIM Consensus Statement -- does not recommend giving any cavalier any drugs, ACE-inhibitor or otherwise, if all the dog has is a mild murmur, like a grade 1 or 2, unless the dog's heart is clearly enlarged.

    I am wondering if your vet knows what she is doing."... You are not a vet and if you didn't agree with what I said she was doing for Pippin you too could have skipped over the post. lets leave it there and agree to disagree
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippa View Post
    ... It was when I posted about Pippin being on Pimobendan and a weeks trial of Fortekor you said...

    " If the MVD is only grade 1 or 2, then I doubt the panting and lack of energy are due to MVD.

    Fortekor is an ACE-inhibitor, and the official consensus statement of board certified cardiologists in the US -- the ACVIM Consensus Statement -- does not recommend giving any cavalier any drugs, ACE-inhibitor or otherwise, if all the dog has is a mild murmur, like a grade 1 or 2, unless the dog's heart is clearly enlarged.

    I am wondering if your vet knows what she is doing."... You are not a vet and if you didn't agree with what I said she was doing for Pippin you too could have skipped over the post. lets leave it there and agree to disagree
    Pippa, the difference is, you were arguing that I should not have posted the link to the Rimadyl article at all.

    I don't have to be a veterinarian to know what veterinary researchers write about pimobendan and ACE-inhibitors. In addition to the invaluable ACVIM Consensus Statement cited above (http://cavalierhealth.org/images/acv...ccvhd_2009.pdf), I read a lot of research reports about MVD and its treatment. Here is a link to those articles: http://cavalierhealth.org/mvd2.htm#Veterinary_Resources
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    I have read these articles and I still state that Pimobendan has helped MY DOG and a few others I know of...I myself have to take medication that is allowed for sale in all or most European countries but not the US as there are risks I say again WITH ALL MEDICATIONS.

    Also when I posted about Pippin before I was asking for the advice of people who had their dogs on these meds. I wasn't asking for your one sided opinion on my vet or my dog, so please stop being so negative...BTW I still don't think you needed to post about Rimadyl as it was a one sided view and many people have good results with it.

    You don't agree, fine, let's leave it there...please.
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