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    To update you all on my Penny, she has had about three good days in a row. No attacks at all on Friday or Saturday and only one on Sunday. She was starting to exhibit the signs of coming into season, so I talked with my vet and we decided to do her spay. She is there right now and they should be just about starting. On the way into the vet this morning, she had a pretty severe attack, brought on by the stress of leaving her warm, comfy bed and her snuggly "sister", Molly so early in the morning. But my vet says that this condition should not add to the inherent dangers of anesthesia, so we are going ahead with it. I am also having her micro-chipped at the same time, I guess I am being optimistic that we will be able to keep her with us, and am proceeding as though she will have a long life with us. If only wishing could make it so. Keep us all in your prayers. I'll let you all know how her surgery comes out and how she recovers. Normally my vet wants to keep post surgical dogs in his hospital overnight, but we are going to bring our baby home this evening. I think it will be less stressful for her to be at home than at the hospital. Hopefully this is the correct decision. I'll update you all soon.
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    Hi Donna
    I had an email from a lady who contacted me some months ago. They were on the point of having their very sverely affected dog pts. She got her vet to contact Jacques Penderis and he allowed them to have the name of the drug they are trialling. The little lad is doing extremely well on it.
    I don't have an email for Jacques at the moment but he is at the university of Glasgow UK and their phone number is +44(0)141-3302000.Maybe your vet would speak to him. I cannot give the name of this drug as it is still being trialled but Jacques will speak to your vet.
    I hope that Penny is recovering well tonight.
    Good luck
    Barbara

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    Donna - sending lots of loving and warm thoughts your way. With my trials and tribulations of late I always think of you and can't imagine what you are going through. Be strong.
    Cathy
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    Penny is doing pretty well, post surgery. Yesterday, her very strict medication schedule was completely disrupted, due to the surgery, and she did not receive two of her doses of Clonazapam. So, of course, she is suffering attacks today. Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part, but they do not seem quite as severe or as lengthy as they were a week ago. Our vet increased her doses of Clonazapam based on her weight yesterday, so I can give her up to 13 mg per day. She has been getting 8 mg per day, evenly spaced in four doses. She is pretty stressed out as she is having to wear a circular collar so she cannot chew her stitches, so I think this is adding to the attacks. But I swear, she seems happier, and so does my beautiful Molly. We had a pretty bad thunderstorm last week. It frightened both of my babies, and surprisingly, instead of insisting on being held in my lap or my mothers, which is their ususal behaviour, they sought out each other. They ended up in the big puppy bed, snuggled together and sound asleep. And since then, it seems they are both more content. Molly sniffed Penny all over when I brought her home from the vet and had to lick nearly all of her fur, before she smelled right to her again. Hopefully I will have more good news to report as Penny completes her recovery. Barb: I will let my vet know the phone number for Dr. Penderis. Maybe that will be our last resort, if she starts to deterioriate again. Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. Thank God for all you wonderful people.
    Donna

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    So glad to hear Penny is doing better. Hopefully it's not wishful thinking that you are seeing a change...maybe it is for real!
    Cathy
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    Hi Donna
    So very pleased that Penny is recovering well. It may be helpful to give her Vitamin E. I know of a couple of people that use it and say they feel it does make a difference. There has been some research into how it works but it's a bit long winded for these posts. You give a teaspoonful per day.Might be worth a try.
    Give Penny and Molly a big hug. Hang in there. I know it's hard but with luck the meds will start to make a difference.
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    Well, it is NOT my imagination, or wishful thinking. My Penny is doing better. She has not had an attack in a week. I even bathed her and used a hair dryer to dry her off, and she did not have an attack. She is romping and playing again, although she is still displaying some weakness in her rear legs. I do not know if this is due to the very large doses of Clonazapam and Phenobarbitol she is getting, or if it is due to the fact that she has had so little physical activity in her young life, that her muscles are simply weaker than they should be. We have started on a program of light to moderate exercise to try and strengthen them. She does not know this is an exercise program, she just thinks it is a fun game to chase me around the back yard. We are taking her camping this weekend, for the first time. I know that Molly will be so happy to have her along, as they both miss each other so much when we take Molly and leave Penny with my mother. I do have a question. Penny is lagging behind on her training, both in the housebreaking area and in general obedience. I freely admit that this is mostly my fault, as I just did not have the heart to scold her when she was so sick, and I was not sure I would be able to keep her. So she has some pretty ingrained bad habits now. My mother is of the opinion that she is unteachable. I do not share this viewpoint, but the techniques I used while training Molly do not seem to be working with Penny. Are there any of you who have housebroken and trained to basic obedience older or rescue dogs who might have some suggestions and pointers for me. Penny has a favorite place in the living room to do her business, and no matter how many times I take her out, or clean the area, she invariably goes back to that spot to relieve herself, usually just after I bring her inside. I scold her, and put her in her crate, but she is now running from me whenever I scold her as she knows she is going to be crated. I want her to view her crate as a good place, not a place of punishment. Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.
    Donna

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    Donna - Wow, I am so happy it was not just your imagination. I can't tell you how happy I was reading your post that your Penny is doing so much better. I think of her often.

    I really don't believe she is unteachable. My only suggestion would be go back to basics. Don't let her be unattended in the house. A sharp "no" the very second you catch her starting to go and immediately take her outside. Major praise and treats when she does go outside. I can't help but feel she is still smelling something where she has been going even though you are cleaning. What are you cleaning with? I use my bissell spot remover to soak up the pee and then liberally dose the area with Nature's Miracle. I mean, I soak the carpet!! We had a guest dog at the house and after he left the pups kept going to a particular area in the living room and doing some serious sniffing. I finally put my nose to the carpet and realized he had peed there. Once I treated the area, they completely left it alone.

    As far as the crate...definitely do not put her in there for punishment. Her crate should be her "happy and safe" place, not a no-no place. If you notice that she is going inside right after you bring her in, keep a real close eye on her so you can catch her in the act and interrupt her.

    Of course, this is all stuff I did when the pups were young. I really don't have any suggestions for a rescue or older dog. But, mostly what I have heard is to go back to the basics.

    Again, I am just so incredibly thrilled that she is doing so well.
    Cathy
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    Hello everyone. Sad news to report. Penny has regressed to a state which is even worse than she has ever been before. The difference this time is she is at the maximum dose of Clonazapam and we cannot increase it any further. She is also starting to exhibit signs of other neurological damage, most likely due to the length of the attacks and the severity of them. She is having difficulty walking, even when she is not in the midst of, or recovering from, an episode. Often, she is just dragging her rear legs, and using her front ones to "scoot" along the floor. She has an odd sort of "tilted to one side" stance, and has started posturing during and immediatley following the episodes. She is also regressing in her housebreaking, and sometimes seems completely unaware that she is losing urine. During one very severe attack, she defecated as well. I have an appointment with my vet later today, but he is of the opinion that we really need to end her suffering. The emotional roller coaster we have been living on is very hard for all of us. I love this little girl to death, and I have a responsibility to her to see that she is not suffering. Please say some prayers. I think today is probably the day.
    Donna

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    Oh, I am so sorry to hear this news. :cry: All my thoughts will be towards you, your family, and Penny today. I know what a nightmare this has been and you have done everything in your power to help this little girl. Please know that you did all the right things. Sometimes, in the end, the best thing for our loved furbabies is the hardest thing of all. :cry:
    Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.
    --Roger Caras

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