Can you be more specific re the UK Champions to which you are referring that are the result of a FULL SIBLING mating?
If people wish to exchange names of dogs PRIVATELY that is fine but I will not allow names of dogs to be posted here unless someone can show me the pedigrees first. Please return and read the Getting Started section on what is OK to post, please, if you are unsure why.
But maybe I will allow such a post, if the people on CC and their pals who keep insisting they know about matings of A dogs, two generation As and 3 generation As 'on both sides' producing affected puppies... reveal who are these breeders, who are the dogs, and who read the scans? So far the people, dogs, breeders and neurologists remain unnamed but the people posting typically will claim to have seen the MRIs or heard this from someone who said they talked to someone who saw the scans...
An occasional anomaly would be expected anyway as people will know basic high school genetics, yet the same folks claim that the dozens of puppies, and several generations of scans now, from groups like the Dutch breeders which clearly indicate that As produce many As while low grades produce few to none, are dismissed. Gee, one or two cases, against dozens and dozens of puppies?
To me sibling matings are of diddly squat importance compared to the fact that there are breeders on those sites -- and they know full well who they are -- lying about what they do regarding their own health testing and breeding programmes, who routinely mate untested stud dogs under 18 months (which are, as a US breeder has rightly pointed out, *still puppies* that would compete in *puppy class* so why are they being mated at this age?) as well as getting litters off of underage females, then refuse to support research into SM (but why not, when they pay lip service to the MVD protocol but don't follow it as well and don't care if their breeder friends follow it). Or they test at a year or 18 months when such tests are fairly meaningless (how many cavaliers have hearts murmurs at age 1 or 2?).
And as more than one breeder on CC has pointed out -- so many who have scanned make posts claiming many clear dogs and great scans -- but where are these dogs? Is everyone hiding them so that the breed is further damaged? People say the SM and MVD guidelines might reduce genetic diversity, but oddly
the exact same people hide away their results (of all those great clear dogs, eh?) and clearly pressure others to do so as well, so that the most common complaint I hear from breeders (publicly on various lists, and privately) is 'there are almost no A dogs; we cannot find A studs; the few we find are not a good match'. Yet so many theoretically have these great scans -
so where are the dogs?
Once again I reiterate: there are some great, caring, committed breeders out there but many of those who post, and post most vociferously, are telling lots of porkies and they know it and they know I and many others know it because we have the evidence. One of these days the truth will out...