• If you're a past member of the board, but can't recall your password any more, you don't need to set up a new account (unless you wish to). As long as you recall your old login name, you can log in with that user name then select 'forgot password' and the board will email you at your registration email, to let you reset your password.

Cavarlier puppy killed

I could NEVER stand by and watch my dog be savaged without trying anything even if I got bit.

I hear ya Karen!! Shelby was attacked by a rottweiler last summer and my "mother hen" instincts just automatically took over. I beat on that dog with my fists, screaming at the top of my lungs. Honestly, if I hadn't, he would have killed her. Thankfully the owner was there to help (the dog was on leash and ripped the leash out of her hands to get to Shelby) and extremely apologetic. Even called for the first few days to be sure Shelby was okay.

I'm definitely not advocating getting in the middle of a dog fight....but know that if I hadn't Shelby would have been shaken to death.
 
This kind of story just breaks my heart, that poor pup & her family, they must be destraught, I know I would be.

I am allways worried that this will happen. When I had my last dog Leo, he was a small chinese crested x maltese & towards the end he was relitivly frail & there is a boy (i would say aprox 16-18yrs) who has a staffy that he walks off lead around the estate. One day she came over & Leo wasn't great with other dogs & barked, now the staffy was ok but I grabbed Leo incase she did suddenly turn as I could imagine his little body in her mouth.

Also I remember seeing on one of those police camera action shows a woman walking a bichon & a 'pitt-bull' type dog came out of nowhere & grabbed the dog, she ran into a shop (which was where this was filmed from) & they tried to get the dog to release hers by using a door but the pitt was having none of it - I can't remember what happened at the end (probably coz I couldn't watch).

But it really worries me, having 2 small dogs, that the wrong people often have these kinds of breeds (I know for every bad owner there are 10 good/responsible ones) because they're big & tough looking.

I used to wok in kennels & we used to have a 'game' - trying to work out what breed of dog people had just by looking at them - we were often right (& sometimes wrong when big fellas had the smallest, fluffiest dogs!!).
 
That is just plain horrifying. My heart goes out to the family. :(

I always worry about situations like this whenever I have had more than one of my dogs out walking, which is why I now walk one dog at a time. It would be like Sophie's Choice; which one would you pick up to save, if you could save only one. Colin had to make that choice when he was walking our 2 girls and was attacked by 2 labs, right in our supposedly quiet, safe neighborhood. At least some neighbors came out to witness it, and one lady actually pulled the meanest lab away.

I've had several close calls, twice with India. Once in the vets waiting room, a rottweiler came after India. The woman holding the rottweiler's lead actually overturned a large shelving unit trying to control her dog. :eek: Another time, we were in a pre-agility class, and the dogs were off lead one at a time for a training exercise. An american bulldog, who had absolutely no intention of obeying his owner, headed our way suddenly. I scooped her up and turned against a wall for protection. These were scary situations to be in, and I was in a supposedly safe place both times. In my own experience, I've found you can NEVER be too careful.
 
This is so devastating! That poor puppy and those poor children, there are just no words for such irresponsible people to keep dogs like that.

I love animals and have grown up with and around all different kinds of dogs but I have found myself becoming quite hardened to breeds that were bred for years for the sole purpose of violence and fighting.

As someone else mentioned, our beloved cavaliers were bred largely for their temperament and adoring personalities and it is not a stretch to say that you could breed a dog for the reverse. I've seen and heard about the nicest, sweetest pit bull dogs turning on dogs at the park or other family pets that they've grown up with!

It isn't fair to the dogs, and I feel guilty being prejudiced against them, but it is even less fair to the other animals and their families who fall victim to these bred killers.

Just a month or so ago, my little boy and I were at the local dog park, which is usually a very friendly and calm place. A sweet older german shepherd, whose owner brings her every single day, was viciously attacked by a bull terrier that was completely unprovoked. The dog was literally standing there, sniffing something, when the terrier attacked it. The shepherd is ok, but she had the top of her head ripped apart and no amount of beating the terrier could get it to let go. It's owner literally was kicking it in the throat before it finally gave up. The poor shepherd was just crying, not fighting back at all. All I could think of was if that had been my cavalier. He would have been torn up like a rag doll and could not have withstood such an attack like the big shepherd could!

These dogs get allot of attention here in California because they are massively overbred and dominate the shelters. There is allot of pressure on the community to adopt and save all of these dogs, but I can't help but feel resistant to it.

IMHO, it should NOT be encouraged for inexperienced dog owners, families, and your average Joe to adopt these big, powerful and potentially dangerous dogs. Especially dogs in the shelter, who are often brought in after being abused or trained to be aggressive to other dogs. These dogs end up going on walks, to the beach or dog parks, and endangering other people's family and dogs. I think its irresponsible and misleading to run the kinds of campaigns I see. It is heartbreaking to know that these dogs get put to sleep because of their sheer number but I do not think that pressuring families and average inexperienced dog owners to adopt them is the answer :(
 
Just read on another site about someone who was walking her little JRT (I think?) with her OH when a man walked past struggling to hold on to his very strong,ferocious dog. Just as the couple got near to their own house the dog broke free & came charging towards them apparently screaming & slavering with teeth bared! the husband thought very quickly & scooped up the little dog & threw him into the rubbish bin! The dog slammed into the bin, but fortunately the jrt was saved. The owner collected his dog with not even a sign of remorse never mind an apology!!! The little dog was wagging his tail when he came out oblivious to the avoided horror.
 
It is heartbreaking to know that these dogs get put to sleep because of their sheer number but I do not think that pressuring families and average inexperienced dog owners to adopt them is the answer

I think that only contributes to the problem. :( The last thing I want is some bull terrier of unknown background going to an inexperienced family. I differ from many I know in rescue on these breeds but I hear again and again of bullbreeds that are supposedly the sweetest family dogs turning on pets and other dogs in particular, sometimes on children (it is a recurring theme).

My personal issue with these breeds is not that I think they are so much a greater danger to people, but that they are well known to have a breed dispensation to be argumentative and prone to fighting or attacking other dogs and pets unless socialised carefully early on. The breed clubs for such breeds clearly state this as do breed encyclopedias. However a lot of these breeds are simply not socialised adequately or deliberately encouraged to go for other animals. My objection to the breeds is that they attack other dogs and all else being equal, I think anyone has to assume any given bull breed dog is more likely to be aggressive to a dog than not, if you meet them on a walk.

From that perspective and knowing many cases where bull breeds have attacked and killed dogs and cats around the area where I live, I support restricted breed lists and requirements (as in Ireland) that certain breeds be leashed, managed by someone older than 16, and muzzled when in public.
 
i feel physically sick reading this.. im so close to crying the only thing stopping me is that im in work

just terrible :(
 
This just makes me sick, my heart goes out to that family!!! I don't blame the dog, but the irresponsible owners that allowed a dog I'm sure they knew was dog aggresive to run loose like that!!! Sadly, I also am willing to bet if it WASN'T a "pit bull type" it wouldn't have made a paper, pits have a bad rep because of bad owners, but personally I'm more weary of labs, goldens, and "good" family dogs, because some owners never THINK they're dangerious, but in the hands of an owner who doesn't know how to control a large dog, I've head of far to many attacks by those breeds as well :( Personally, I feel ANY large dog should only be in the hands of an owner who understands that any dog CAN be a dangerious dog if not trained and handled properly and takes the steps needed to have a well socialized, well trained dog. Now powerful breeds like Rotties, Pits, Dobermans, Shepards, ETC definatly DO need a stronger minded owner then most labs or goldens, but it breaks my heart that it's only when the bully breeds attack does the media make a huge deal about it.

That said - I do hope they find that dog and take it away from those owners!!! And once a dog has a taste for blood like that, rehabilitating them is very unlikely, the dog can never be trusted again, so sadly, I feel the best thing would be to euthanize that dog if they ever do find it to prevent this from happening again,what a horrible tragidy that could have all been prevented with a little responsible dog ownership!!!!!
 
OMG!! The poor pup. I hope for her sake it was over very fast. And Oh her family! I hope the children will be alright.
 
Back
Top